IK Multimedia TONEX

[Los-D]

QC sounds like grilled dick too.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I fucking hate that Kemper scratchy ballbag sound. Cringe. Total cringe.

I agree. gotta keep em well shaved.

 

[Antipodes]

I fucking hate that Kemper scratchy ballbag sound. Cringe. Total cringe.

Haven't you guys got a 12-stage skin care routine yet?

 

[norminal]

Anybody try these?

 

[PLX]

Anybody try these?

Yep.

 

[norminal]

Yep.

What the verdict?

 

[PLX]

What the verdict?

Gonna hold off judgement. The demo only worked for 30 minutes, then shut off.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Anybody try these?

Well crap, that sounds great to me.

 

[Fremen]

Uhh well this is dumb Why pay for these ?? 4 Pedals with 50 Different Configurations ?>
Sounds like IR folder diving to me
Meh

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Yeah no thanks :)

There are much better alternatives

 

[PatF]

I bought the 78/79 pack. They sound cool. I think it's worth it to support Jim and all his hard work that he shares with us. Any discrepancies can be made up for by releasing an '80/'81/'84 pack as well.

 

[norminal]

I bought the 78/79 pack. They sound cool. I think it's worth it to support Jim and all his hard work that he shares with us. Any discrepancies can be made up for by releasing an '80/'81/'84 pack as well.

Sounds like Jim is the expert when it comes to VH tones. I like the direction IK is going with these capture packs.

 

[Sascha Franck]

"Ouch" for the Kemper. The others might be servicable with some tweaks, the Kemper fails quite hard here.

 

[BenIfin]

Sounds like Jim is the expert when it comes to VH tones. I like the direction IK is going with these capture packs.

"Ouch" for the Kemper. The others might be servicable with some tweaks, the Kemper fails quite hard here.

I don't know if Michael is using cascading gain stages / pre's in his Mesa Rack (?) but since Day 1 through to today, the Kemper is *terrible* at Profiling Amps with more than 1 Preamp stage -or- a single Preamp Stage with a drive in front of it..

Its also *terrible* at profiling cranked Amps where the Pre-Stage -and- the Power Stage are both "overdriving" - it simply has no idea or awareness on how to tell the difference and process more than 1 gain stage.

Take a Matchless DC 30 or Vox ...... as soon as the Amp is opened up so both stages are cooking, the Profiles sound like crap - keep the Amps so the Power stage is not playing much of a part in the tone and it will sound fine.

Back in the Day when I first got my Kemper I profiled my Ceriatone DC30 many times. As soon as I pulled the MV out and cranked it - it sounded -glorious- in person, but a total mess when profiled. The process to this day has not changed.

 

[Sascha Franck]

The process to this day has not changed.

Well, as amazing as it is that they still manage to squeeze some nice things into the unit, the core profiling apparently can't be changed anymore - and it's pretty wellknown that it's likely working with some base models and whatever clever Match EQ-ing (possibly pre and post). And obviously, that approach can only take you "this far".

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

I don't know if Michael is using cascading gain stages / pre's in his Mesa Rack (?) but since Day 1 through to today, the Kemper is *terrible* at Profiling Amps with more than 1 Preamp stage -or- a single Preamp Stage with a drive in front of it..

Its also *terrible* at profiling cranked Amps where the Pre-Stage -and- the Power Stage are both "overdriving" - it simply has no idea or awareness on how to tell the difference and process more than 1 gain stage.

Take a Matchless DC 30 or Vox ...... as soon as the Amp is opened up so both stages are cooking, the Profiles sound like crap - keep the Amps so the Power stage is not playing much of a part in the tone and it will sound fine.

Back in the Day when I first got my Kemper I profiled my Ceriatone DC30 many times. As soon as I pulled the MV out and cranked it - it sounded -glorious- in person, but a total mess when profiled. The process to this day has not changed.

You're hard pressed to find anything from JCM800 onward that isnt cascading gain stages with 3 to 5 stages.

 

[Ed DeGenaro]

That Kemper was stunningly shite.
Ampero surprised me, Tonex was closest.

None touched the original especially funny how obvious it was in the mix.

I really like the Kemper stuff but that top end hash-y sizzle is what I've been fighting.

 

[hunter]

Michael also states in a comment below the video that Kemper sucks at Mesa and excels at Marshall dirt.
Also keep in mind, for Kemper there is a refinement process that takes manual intervention by the one doing the profile, and not sure how much time Michael spent for that. On top of that, there is the liquid profile option on Kemper, and IMO the LPs do have an edge when tweaking a little.

That said, gonna dig out the ole Tonex now and give that one a shot again. S been a while :)

 

[JiveTurkey]

Michael also states in a comment below the video that Kemper sucks at Mesa and excels at Marshall dirt.

Generally speaking; this x 1000.

 

[Mongillo19]

Gave the Tone X pack a spin with the 30 min free trial. I think they sound pretty killer!

 

[Chocol8]

Also keep in mind, for Kemper there is a refinement process that takes manual intervention by the one doing the profile, and not sure how much time Michael spent for that. On top of that, there is the liquid profile option on Kemper, and IMO the LPs do have an edge when tweaking a little.

None of that makes the Kemper competitive with even the budget competition these days.