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Chocol8 said:
If that's what makes you happy, It won't bother me.
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Chocol8 said:
They are all just tools and they all work, but some people feel the need to crap on whichever ones they don't choose to own. It's silly.
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It’s like this with fly fishing, folks will refuse to acknowledge the quality of lower priced gear made overseas despite that same gear being way better than any premium gear put out in the “good old days”

Amps are fun, they are the best in my experience, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t love and use models and captures as well.
 
paisleywookiee said:
I don't think pointing out dislikes about something is necessarily "crapping on them". Hell, some people pay for that!
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It isn't. The only reason to claim that it is, is ultimately down to projection. Person claims that others "hate" or "dislike" profiling, but what is really going on is, they want to get ahead of the "backlash" by pretending to speak for the critics. It’s not that they believe others hate profiling—it’s that they’re bracing for judgment and trying to reframe it as irrational or emotional, so their own stance seems more measured or courageous by comparison.

They're a poodle waiting for the 5 five ton truck to explode them into red mist. But the 5 ton truck is really just a human with a different perspective. The shock horror of that.
 
I think capture tech is really cool, I just would never want it as my primary platform, because chasing profiles/captures really, really sucks if you don't have the means/amps to capture yourself.
 
I'm not really sure that I spend more time auditioning captures with my Tonex gear than I do and/or did tweaking presets and IR choices with my modeling gear. With both approaches I seem to go through phases where I spend a lot of time tweaking/auditioning and then phases where I've settled down with a handful of go-to presets/captures.

I do think that I generally prefer the modeling approach though. I can't think of anything gear related that I would automatically be interested in more than Fractal's next generation.
 
I definitely agree that capturing is best when it’s your amp and you’re familiar with it and know what to expect. But I find the same thing with modelling really, I seem to have a much happier time using models when I know they can sound and behave like the real amps. That’s essentially what I look for in a model - a familiarity and expectation.

Capture tech is excellent in the studio - I can be working with different bands on different projects and we can easily jump between captured sounds and carry on between sessions on non consecutive days.
 
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The arguing is bullshit. If you don’t like captures why not GTFO of the capture thread? Why are you even here really?

To me captures are just like IR’s. Find some that suit you and rock on. The people obsessed with pushing their point of view as gospel is nauseating High School crap. Jesus.
 
To be fair we went about 5 pages on the FAS thread about the difference between errors in modeling accuracy vs amp mod representations.

Discourse is part of a forum and if you expect every argument to be of the utmost scholarly level, I have bad news 😂

But yeah I can see how this has been a


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Mongillo19 said:
To be fair we went about 5 pages on the FAS thread about the difference between errors in modeling accuracy vs amp mod representations.

Discourse is part of a forum and if you expect every argument to be of the utmost scholarly level, I have bad news 😂

But yeah I can see how this has been a


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I dunno man, I’ve been told I’m dead wrong about shit, totally factually wrong, but then given not an iota of proof. Seems par for the course for some people. That’s the forum life.
 
Mongillo19 said:
To be fair we went about 5 pages on the FAS thread about the difference between errors in modeling accuracy vs amp mod representations.

Discourse is part of a forum and if you expect every argument to be of the utmost scholarly level, I have bad news 😂

But yeah I can see how this has been a


:blanket

For capture talk
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We weren’t, however, arguing about whether modeling is worthwhile. There’s a difference. One is voicing opinions on a mutually appreciated effort and product. The other (here) is just a shit show.
 
KingsXJJ said:
The arguing is bullshit. If you don’t like captures why not GTFO of the capture thread? Why are you even here really?
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Because nothing screams “superior gear” like passive-aggressively flexing on capture-clicking nerds who didn’t remortgage their house for a boutique amp blessed by tone shamans.

I still keep a soft spot for real amps though, mostly for the nostalgia. But sound-wise, IMO, todays modeling and capture tech are sitting at the same table now. I captured my favorite high-gain setup last night, and in a blind test, I know wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

I got into capture tech to explore different amps/tones, these days I’m running with my own tones. No volume wars with the neighbors, no dragging half a stack to a gig. Just my small board, an optional cab, and the ability to summon my entire amp arsenal with a tap. I don’t need to carry my castle on my back.
 
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