IK Multimedia TONEX
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synthpenguin
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If you're not having the issue running into a power amp > guitar cab, but are having it when running it direct into a PA, it sounds like the issue has to do with your cab sim / IR. Do you have decent speaker or headphone playback to test that at home? What are you using and how does it compare to your actual guitar cab / speaker(s) at home?
If you're not using a cab sim / IR and don't want to because you're using your acoustic electric, then you'll have to be really careful with your drive pedal choices and settings. Many of them will introduce or accentuate a lot of harsh frequencies that would normally be filtered out by a guitar speaker (which is what is happening when running the Tonex / Stomp into your Origin). Using drive pedals with EQ controls and cutting the high end with them can help (the Teemah and Ratatouille both have powerful treble / filter controls for this) , or you can just do low and high cuts that you toggle on when you engage on the drive pedal(s).
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Sascha Franck
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Hm, got some great tones from the Tonex nested in the Stomp's loop. In fact, it's not unlikely for this to become my small setup (even if the Stomp on its own is absolutely fine already).
Sascha Franck
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JFYI: Oblique's RTL Utility already showed some differences between reported and measured latencies when using the TXO as an audio interface, but I was measuring that offset again under Logic, turned out it's 230 samples (or maybe 231, transients can become a tad smeared on loopback recordings).
Under 44.1kHz (which is what I'm still usually going for, it's also the native samplerate of the Tonex pedal), that equals 5.2ms of additional (unreported) latency on top and it also means that you might want to compensate things in your DAW when recording. Logic fortunately offers a global recording offset function, just that you have to remember switching it back when switching interfaces (would be great if that was remembered per interface, but that's another story...).
Anyhow, this means that the TXO, when used as an interface, goes up from a still useable value of 7.9ms (which is the reported value) to around 13ms. Which isn't anything I would want to deal with. And fwiw, it's been the reason I started these tests in the first place, because the reported 7.9ms just didn't feel like that (I'm pretty used to fooling around with various interfaces and testing them, hence checking latencies in that kinda ballpark, so my "latency antenna" is kinda sensible or whatever you may call it).
Not sure whether IK could improve overall latency figures (as those are largely depending on the chipset used, and in whatever modelers it's certainly nothing to write home about as they're not meant to work as interfaces in the first place), but IMO they should defenitely improve the driver and/or firmware so correct values are reported to the host.
Maybe someone on Windows might want to check whether it's the same there. It's a pretty easy procedure, just download the RTL utility here, switch direct monitoring on the Tonex off and bypass it, then connect its output to its input and measure away.
Under 44.1kHz (which is what I'm still usually going for, it's also the native samplerate of the Tonex pedal), that equals 5.2ms of additional (unreported) latency on top and it also means that you might want to compensate things in your DAW when recording. Logic fortunately offers a global recording offset function, just that you have to remember switching it back when switching interfaces (would be great if that was remembered per interface, but that's another story...).
Anyhow, this means that the TXO, when used as an interface, goes up from a still useable value of 7.9ms (which is the reported value) to around 13ms. Which isn't anything I would want to deal with. And fwiw, it's been the reason I started these tests in the first place, because the reported 7.9ms just didn't feel like that (I'm pretty used to fooling around with various interfaces and testing them, hence checking latencies in that kinda ballpark, so my "latency antenna" is kinda sensible or whatever you may call it).
Not sure whether IK could improve overall latency figures (as those are largely depending on the chipset used, and in whatever modelers it's certainly nothing to write home about as they're not meant to work as interfaces in the first place), but IMO they should defenitely improve the driver and/or firmware so correct values are reported to the host.
Maybe someone on Windows might want to check whether it's the same there. It's a pretty easy procedure, just download the RTL utility here, switch direct monitoring on the Tonex off and bypass it, then connect its output to its input and measure away.
