Helix Stadium wishlist

[Orvillain]

Because full room reflections would require a MUCH longer IR. You can keep the IR short and have the cab, or you can go all the way to 1+ second IR to capture cab and room. Anything in the middle is generally going to be a mess. It's better to just get the cab in the cab IR and then add the room in a separate longer room reverb IR if you wan't that.

This isn't really the case. Longer impulse responses capture better resolution in the low-frequencies than shorter ones.

The purpose of using longer IR's is not really to do with capturing room reflections, although it can help with that. The purpose is to give finer bins when it comes to the convolution process.

In convolution, the IR length directly determines the FFT size, which determines how finely the spectrum is represented. A longer IR gives narrower frequency bins, which means:

- Tighter and more accurate low-frequency behaviour
- Less smearing and phase distortion near the bottom end
- More faithful representation of speaker resonance, cab tuning, and mic proximity effects.

The realistic sweet spot would be somewhere between 150-250ms. I think Fractal's "UltraRes" works out to be around 170ms.

So again, just to emphasize the point - IR length is related to frequency resolution, not ambience.

 

[EOengineer]

This isn't really the case. Longer impulse responses capture better resolution in the low-frequencies than shorter ones.

The purpose of using longer IR's is not really to do with capturing room reflections, although it can help with that. The purpose is to give finer bins when it comes to the convolution process.

In convolution, the IR length directly determines the FFT size, which determines how finely the spectrum is represented. A longer IR gives narrower frequency bins, which means:

- Tighter and more accurate low-frequency behaviour
- Less smearing and phase distortion near the bottom end
- More faithful representation of speaker resonance, cab tuning, and mic proximity effects.

The realistic sweet spot would be somewhere between 150-250ms. I think Fractal's "UltraRes" works out to be around 170ms.

So again, just to emphasize the point - IR length is related to frequency resolution, not ambience.

 

[EOengineer]

Does anyone rely heavily on the Hx Klon? My main real rig is a klone (Centura) -> 2204. While I can pretty much nail the amp with agoura, the Hx Klon feels thin and honky compared to what I’m used to getting out of the Centura.

Anyway - perhaps an agoura Klon? Or just a better one?

 

[JiveTurkey]

Does anyone rely heavily on the Hx Klon? My main real rig is a klone (Centura) -> 2204. While I can pretty much nail the amp with agoura, the Hx Klon feels thin and honky compared to what I’m used to getting out of the Centura.

Anyway - perhaps an agoura Klon? Or just a better one?

Are we talking about the Minotaur? If so; I use it as a pick attack enhancer. That's one thing I still notice between FAS and HX amp modeling. The pick attack in HX amps is a soft, rounded, kind of blunt thing. The FM stuff is more razor like when the amp is set that way? It's not a latency or feel difference. It doesn't come across in a recording really either?

 

[GLiDE-BPM]

Agoura: All 6 channels of the Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mark 3. (yes, I own one!)

 

[paisleywookiee]

Are we talking about the Minotaur? If so; I use it as a pick attack enhancer. That's one thing I still notice between FAS and HX amp modeling. The pick attack in HX amps is a soft, rounded, kind of blunt thing. The FM stuff is more razor like when the amp is set that way? It's not a latency or feel difference. It doesn't come across in a recording really either?

The Minotaur in the HX is IMO definitely better than the Klone in the Fractal, as are the POT/KOT variants. I was never very pleased with the drives in the FAS, and often used my handbuilt Klone based on a silver Klon instead.

 

[JiveTurkey]

The Minotaur in the HX is IMO definitely better than the Klone in the Fractal, as are the POT/KOT variants. I was never very pleased with the drives in the FAS, and often used my handbuilt Klone based on a silver Klon instead.

Real world pedals for me, always. I can get good results out of the digital equivalents with some caveats too.

 

[EOengineer]

Are we talking about the Minotaur?

Yeah. What you’re describing is how I use the Centura with the real world 2204.

If so; I use it as a pick attack enhancer. That's one thing I still notice between FAS and HX amp modeling. The pick attack in HX amps is a soft, rounded, kind of blunt thing. The FM stuff is more razor like when the amp is set that way?

I know you tried it and it wasn’t your thing but I’m finding subtle hype settings (2-2.5) to sharpen the pick attack a bit.

 

[GTR37]

Agoura: All 6 channels of the Hughes & Kettner Triamp Mark 3. (yes, I own one!)

That actually would be pretty cool , I don’t know of any modeller that has that
When I was listening to SDS demo I was thinking damn I hope Jon does some captures of this 3rd channel when proxy comes out early next year

 

[paisleywookiee]

As far as wishlists go, I'd say:

1. Mesa Boogie Badlander
2. Mesa Boogie Fillmore
3. Mesa Boogie Transatlantic
4. Orange OR15
5. Bad Cat Hot Cat
6. Carbon Copy Bright