Fractal Audio Systems mystery product speculation

[JiveTurkey]

Cioks DC7 is all 650ma outputs. I'd sooner buy a new PSU than have to deal with wall warts. Which I did just recently so I could power my stomp with everything else on my board and 1 plug

in my experience though you can usually get away with a little less draw than some of these digital pedals claim... if it boots its probably good to go

Almost time to fulfill the second ownership requirement of TGF

 

[HotRats]

And they still have those endless option products…

Endless options is off-putting to a lot of players. There are a lot of players who would like the sounds of fractal gear, but are never going to deal with the things that go along with those endless options. Now fractal has something to offer those people.

For people like me who want few limitations, loads of power, and lots of footswitches, well we already bought or plan to buy an FM9 of Axe3.

While this thing isn’t really for me, I think it’s a brilliant product choice for their lineup.

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I can't argue with your opinion about a product.

In my opinion (or for what I look for in a product like this) a generalist multi fx unit with only 4 simultaneous effect and not 4cm friendly is too limited.

I'm sure it will be successful and adopted by tons of players with different needs.

 

[SonVolt]

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What are you using to build those pedalboard screenshots?

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

I can't argue with your opinion about a product.

In my opinion (or for what I look for in a product like this) a generalist multi fx unit with only 4 simultaneous effect and not 4cm friendly is too limited.

I'm sure it will be successful and adopted by tons of players with different needs.

Are you implying this isn't 4cm friendly? Because that isn't the case here for sure.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Almost time to fulfill the second ownership requirement of TGF

Unless VP4 is shockingly cheap it aint happening any time soon

 

[Baba]

Well, "straightforward to operate" needs to be graded in Fractal terms, but still

HXFX can do nine blocks, two loops, command center, IRs, snapshots and many other Helix goodies; this product (and stuff like the HX One) is intended for people who wants nothing to do with those. If tweaking is your thing, get a FM3 instead.

Agreed.

I think what I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is, with my Stomp XL, in every preset, I use all 8 blocks, (if it were up to me, I'd have access to 10 or 12), and the ONLY block that is repeated, or the same TYPE, is a delay.

I may only use 3 or 4 of them at a time, BUT, for example, I have one preset with the Poly Capo tuned down a half step, and one preset with it tuned up a half step, so, in the VP4, that one block would be taken in every scene, with only 3 blocks left for drive/comp/chorus/delay/wah/volume pedal/tremolo, etc.

With my Stomp XL, even when using the Poly Capo, I still have 7 other blocks, with different fx types, to use.

 

[Desertdweller]

Plex is

It really is. It can do almost anything.

 

[PorcinePicker]

Stages of grief....

I WANT TO BUY SOMETHING!!!!

that doesn't sound like it's for me but maybe I can fit it in somewhere

nope

 

[HotRats]

Are you implying this isn't 4cm friendly? Because that isn't the case here for sure.

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Doesn't have amp control outs so for me is not user 4cm user friendly.

I should have been more precise, I guess.

I don't understand why there's this need to defend a product against other people opinions.

It's just opinions.

 

[JiveTurkey]

4cm and amp control aren't the same thing though.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

Doesn't have amp control outs so for me is not user 4cm user friendly.

I should have been more precise, I guess.

I don't understand why there's this need to defend a product against other people opinions.

It's just opinions.

I was asking a question, that's all. I understand that it doesn't have switching, and if you wanted that ..that sux.

Also ..you could buy a midi channel switcher....and do it that way. This is my intention.

Also, don't always assume that ..there's this need to defend a product against other people opinions. That isn't what I am doing, personally. Just clarifying for those whom want to have concise answers.

 

[HotRats]

4cm and amp control aren't the same thing though.

No, they aren't but 4cm without amp control is limited (you see? It's limited! ) anytime you hook it up with a multichannel amp.

For me there no 4cm without amp switching.

 

[HotRats]

I was asking a question, that's all. I understand that it doesn't have switching, and if you wanted that ..that sux.

Also ..you could by a midi channel switcher....and do it that way. This is my intention.

Also, don't always assume that ..there's this need to defend a product against other people opinions. That isn't what I am doing, personally. Just clarifying for those whom want to have concise answers.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

No, they aren't but 4cm without amp control is limited (you see? It's limited! ) anytime you hook it up with a multichannel amp.

For me there no 4cm without amp switching.

I do that exact thing right now with my Laney.....thus the switcher addition in the future.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

 

[Desertdweller]

Agreed.

I think what I'm having trouble wrapping my head around is, with my Stomp XL, in every preset, I use all 8 blocks, (if it were up to me, I'd have access to 10 or 12), and the ONLY block that is repeated, or the same TYPE, is a delay.

I may only use 3 or 4 of them at a time, BUT, for example, I have one preset with the Poly Capo tuned down a half step, and one preset with it tuned up a half step, so, in the VP4, that one block would be taken in every scene, with only 3 blocks left for drive/comp/chorus/delay/wah/volume pedal/tremolo, etc.

With my Stomp XL, even when using the Poly Capo, I still have 7 other blocks, with different fx types, to use.

Input w/Gate - Wah - Overdrive (out to amp input)
(Back from amp) - Chorus - Plex Delay (out to amp)

This will accomplish 95% of what I need. The Plex Delay block is unbelievably powerful. I don’t even need the chorus block and will sub in compressors or pitch blocks as needed. Compression AFTER the preamp in a clean sound is just amazing and super-underrated IMO.

 

[Jarick]

It's still a very cool pedal that could be really useful.

I think what would have been REALLY cool would be integrated loop switching and amp channel switching, like a Boss MS-3. Then you could use the Fractal as the hub for your pedalboard. That may be something for a future product.

 

[likitlikeyoulikeit]

It's still a very cool pedal that could be really useful.

I think what would have been REALLY cool would be integrated loop switching and amp channel switching, like a Boss MS-3. Then you could use the Fractal as the hub for your pedalboard. That may be something for a future product.

Totally agree, but the theorized price..... I'm good without. But with that, and stereo out with 4cm for 999..... done deal.

Still gonna get this if they don't do that.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

L6 HXFX -vs- Zoom MS50g

Call me crazy, but not really an apples-to-apples "comparison"

I'd call you accurate, not crazy.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Someone said a while back that it can't transmit midi tempo, is that really the case? I got excited when I saw the mini jacks but that kinda negates the excitement. Yeah yeah I know, run it last in the chain, but

A. that would mean needing a second 25ft 1/8" cable, one already goes from my board to my bass players board, then would need the second one to return back to my board. That's just inefficient and annoying

B. his QC also can't receive + send midi clock so thats another case of something needing to be last in the chain

Not sure why Fractal/NDSP would not include this type of functionality... its like... super basic...