Fender Tone Master Pro: Episode IV - A New Hope

[JiveTurkey]

People dig both pieces. And that's what's important at the end of the day; whether I like them or not. I've kinda dipped away from griping about them as I lost any sort of energy to care about it at this point.

 

[DrewJD82]

Ha. Fender booted me from Discord because I dare to mention its flaws...

I've never seen such an immature bunch of so called professionals. To be clear, I'm not out there saying 'it sucks, don't buy it blah blah'. I am though, accurately, stating my disappointment that, for example, scenes doesn't work properly, and that it generates huge audio gaps when switching...

www.thegearpage.net

So Fender’s official discussion board is Discord? What happened to their forum?

Every time i’ve opened the TMP thread at TOP i see that dude bitching about something. Reminds me of the “just telling it like it is” type

 

[Shredder777]

Double edged sword. Using the forums for marketing and outreach.

 

[Frodebro]

Every time i’ve opened the TMP thread at TOP i see that dude bitching about something. Reminds me of the “just telling it like it is” type

I am banned from that thread-and I was careful to be positive and supportive of the unit and the reps every step of the way. Any semblance of nice disappeared at that point, though it was a TGP mod who chose to boot me along with the stalker who was trolling me hard for a few pages.

Fuck 'em. Fractal is the way.

 

[Shredder777]

I am banned from that thread-and I was careful to be positive and supportive of the unit and the reps every step of the way. Any semblance of nice disappeared at that point, though it was a TGP mod who chose to boot me along with the stalker who was trolling me hard for a few pages.

Fuck 'em. Fractal is the way.

I think thats how they work. The stalker might have been a paid company shill. The stalker stirs up shit, you get banned, everyone gets back to their regularly scheduled program.

 

[GTR37]

Every time i’ve opened the TMP thread at TOP i see that dude bitching about something. Reminds me of the “just telling it like it is” type

The sad part is a couple of the guys were big on forums were very helpful and always gave honest opinions of gear and were welcoming to all
But it just goes to show when you have vested interest in the products , things can change

 

[DrewJD82]

The sad part is a couple of the guys were big on forums were very helpful and always gave honest opinions of gear and were welcoming to all
But it just goes to show when you have vested interest in the products , things can change

While I agree with that, everything I’ve seen from that particular poster was more along the lines of “I paid money so I demand answers right now and if it’s not happening at the speed I want it to I’m going to keep bitching”. I think he joined here early on and our kind didn’t take kindly to his kind.

 

[[Nathan]]

Didn’t see his posts on the TMP discord but if he got banned he must’ve been an Ahole lol. Pretty low volume of convos there and plenty of criticisms of Fender stuff so if he got banned it sounds like a personality issue more than a “feedback issue”

In comparison the NDSP discord is 12x more troll and gaslight worthy if you even mention one remotely critical thing about anything theyve done ever…. “Sounds like a you problem”

 

[norminal]

In comparison the NDSP discord is 12x more troll and gaslight worthy

Do they have a body building sub forum?

 

[[Nathan]]

Do they have a body building sub forum?

 

[Lysander]

In all seriousness, I'm gathering that these upstarts are seeing Discord as a more modern "customer interaction" channel than straight-up traditional discussion forums.

It drives me crazy as well. Don't know exactly when it became fashionable to use IRC for customer support, but, alas.

In comparison the NDSP discord is 12x more troll and gaslight worthy if you even mention one remotely critical thing about anything theyve done ever…. “Sounds like a you problem”

+100. I've seen people, newcomers included, kicked there just for daring to ask when plugins were going to be ported to the QC.

 

[metropolis_4]

What is the problem with scenes?

It would be a bummer if Fender did screw them up and aren’t owning up to the mistake and fixing it

 

[[Nathan]]

What is the problem with scenes?

It would be a bummer if Fender did screw them up and aren’t owning up to the mistake and fixing it

I tested scenes out and they worked fine for me in general, but I’ll need to test this tomorrow to see what the fuss is about. Sounds like if you have scene1 with a chorus off and scene2 with a chorus off. If you turn the chorus on in scene1 then flick to scene2 the chorus is still on.

Fender are saying that was the intentional functionality and users are saying it should respect the scene and turn off the chorus. Looks like fender have acknowledged this feedback and it will get updated at some point.

I mean it’s great to have options and I would have assumed flicking to a scene decimates whatever you have off/on and uses the saved scene as gospel…. But I can see the flip side and why they did it the way it is. The reality is if I’m using scenes I probably won’t ever touch individual pedals cause I’d just be flicking between scenes, kind of the whole point… but we’re not all the same I get it.

People love complaining, looks like it’s getting updated, should be a win win but the complaints never end.

 

[metropolis_4]

I tested scenes out and they worked fine for me in general, but I’ll need to test this tomorrow to see what the fuss is about. Sounds like if you have scene1 with a chorus off and scene2 with a chorus off. If you turn the chorus on in scene1 then flick to scene2 the chorus is still on.

Fender are saying that was the intentional functionality and users are saying it should respect the scene and turn off the chorus. Looks like fender have acknowledged this feedback and it will get updated at some point.

I mean it’s great to have options and I would have assumed flicking to a scene decimates whatever you have off/on and uses the saved scene as gospel…. But I can see the flip side and why they did it the way it is. The reality is if I’m using scenes I probably won’t ever touch individual pedals cause I’d just be flicking between scenes, kind of the whole point… but we’re not all the same I get it.

People love complaining, looks like it’s getting updated, should be a win win but the complaints never end.

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!

I think other devices have a toggle setting to choose whether changes are saved or blown out when changing scenes. I bet they’ll eventually add something like that and for a first release they just went with what they thought would be the most popular use case.

Definitely doesn’t seem like an issue, just the way it was designed

 

[JiveTurkey]

I tested scenes out and they worked fine for me in general, but I’ll need to test this tomorrow to see what the fuss is about. Sounds like if you have scene1 with a chorus off and scene2 with a chorus off. If you turn the chorus on in scene1 then flick to scene2 the chorus is still on.

Fender are saying that was the intentional functionality and users are saying it should respect the scene and turn off the chorus. Looks like fender have acknowledged this feedback and it will get updated at some point.

I mean it’s great to have options and I would have assumed flicking to a scene decimates whatever you have off/on and uses the saved scene as gospel…. But I can see the flip side and why they did it the way it is. The reality is if I’m using scenes I probably won’t ever touch individual pedals cause I’d just be flicking between scenes, kind of the whole point… but we’re not all the same I get it.

People love complaining, looks like it’s getting updated, should be a win win but the complaints never end.

Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing!

I think other devices have a toggle setting to choose whether changes are saved or blown out when changing scenes. I bet they’ll eventually add something like that and for a first release they just went with what they thought would be the most popular use case.

Definitely doesn’t seem like an issue, just the way it was designed

There are variants of this functionality in a lot of these devices. And tbh; it's one of the worst things to remember when switching between this modeler family and that modeler family. I don't have enough brain to remember if it's revert/ignore/snap revert/wtfever.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I mean it’s great to have options and I would have assumed flicking to a scene decimates whatever you have off/on and uses the saved scene as gospel…. But I can see the flip side and why they did it the way it is. The reality is if I’m using scenes I probably won’t ever touch individual pedals cause I’d just be flicking between scenes, kind of the whole point… but we’re not all the same I get it.

This is why I only bought a Helix Floor when they introduced Snapshot Bypass. Which is allowing you to have the pedal's on/off status saved with snapshots (which would obviously be the default and most common use case, no idea why it's different on the TMP, in fact, I don't even know what else scenes would really be good for...), but you can as well deactivate it so a pedal's status is valid patch wide. The latter being what I really wanted (and also used a lot once I bought the Floor).

 

[Frodebro]

Every time i’ve opened the TMP thread at TOP i see that dude bitching about something. Reminds me of the “just telling it like it is” type

That thread was just nuked, which is a shame. FleshlightNYC (or whatever he goes by) was just starting to get nasty with me. Missed opportunities…

 

[privatezero]

That thread was just nuked, which is a shame. FleshlightNYC (or whatever he goes by) was just starting to get nasty with me. Missed opportunities…

Side story, I got into it with the same guy about 2 months ago (FleshlightNYC) when he tried to tell me my opinion wasn't as valid as his because he had a youtube video he posted with 8000's views. (probably all his from reliving his lifes greatest acheivement of making a youtube video.)

When he just wouldn't stop I reported him and the response I got from the Mods was , and I quote, " The user you reported was already banned so i don't know what else you want me to do" and lo and behold a few weeks later he's back.

 

[Frodebro]

Side story, I got into it with the same guy about 2 months ago (FleshlightNYC) when he tried to tell me my opinion wasn't as valid as his because he had a youtube video he posted with 8000's views. (probably all his from reliving his lifes greatest acheivement of making a youtube video.)

When he just wouldn't stop I reported him and the response I got from the Mods was , and I quote, " The user you reported was already banned so i don't know what else you want me to do" and lo and behold a few weeks later he's back.

Thing is, I completely understand his frustration. But lashing out at anybody that tries to interact with you isn't really conducive to moving forward. And if a bunch of people are trying to tell you that your presentation is a bit too aggressive, maybe they're not the problem.