Fender Tone Master FR-10 and FR-12 FRFR cabs
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paisleywookiee
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You mean, like a Katana 100w? or Catalyst 100w?
KHAAAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!!!!
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jay mitchell
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Tell us you used the wrong mushrooms in the risotto without saying you used the wrong mushrooms in the risotto.
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What you’re describing are two FR12s with their Cut knobs turned all the way up.
Bonus: you can also turn the Cut knobs down, to taste. :)
Jarick
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I was messing around with that actually, cut all the way up and no cab in the modeler. Flipped back over to Blackstar Amped-1 into Orange PPC112 but may hook that back up.
Los-D
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How does it compare to your other (prior) solutions? Wondering if someone has compared it to a BAM200 or Quilter solutions
Jarick
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How does it compare to your other (prior) solutions? Wondering if someone has compared it to a BAM200 or Quilter solutions
I'm probably the wrong one to ask as I only do low volume stuff with it. I think the 1x12 Orange cabs are really well built but sound a lot leaner and brighter than 2x12 cabs (or maybe other 1x12's). A lot of videos and people's experience with the Amped-1 is that it's a much better sounding class D amp than others. I got a good deal on mine used and it's pretty dang good, actually it sounds good on its own as an amp with pedals in front of it too (and it provides 500 mA of power for pedals too).
I'd be really interested to try a Quilter amp, not sure if it's better or not though.
Ultimately I think a stereo power amp and a stereo 2x12 cab would be a killer setup.
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I can’t vouch for the FR12 sounding particularly good when configured this way. Swapping out the 12” for a “known good” might help, but then the overall solution becomes less cost-effective (and perhaps less versatile, depending.)
But leaving cab sims running and finding a sweet spot with the Cut knob (as Fender intended) is effective.
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Well I just changed one of my FR-10s to the V3 Archangel pre and compared it to the other stock FR-10.
Much better all around! Better headroom, cleaner signal, less harsh in the treble, a lot of range on the controls -- mid and cut controls are much more effective now.
Easy to install too. Great kit! Going to change the other one out later today.
Much better all around! Better headroom, cleaner signal, less harsh in the treble, a lot of range on the controls -- mid and cut controls are much more effective now.
Easy to install too. Great kit! Going to change the other one out later today.
Stratzrus
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That's how I'm amplifying my FM9 but using one FR-10 and one FR-12.Got the other pre in now.stereo
Sounds wonderful from Jazz to Metal.
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Anyone with a FR10/12 should definitely consider getting an Archangel V3 kit. Even if noise is not an issue - the clarity, headroom and range of control is worth the upgrade. It really takes these to the next level and it's money well spent imo. I spent a few hours playing yesterday and it was a lot of fun. I even feel like my gain pedals hitting the Stomp into the FR10s had more life and dimension.
madmarcus1960
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I got 2 FR10 on the cheap used and upgraded both to Archangel V3 pre's. It's a great stereo rig for my basement jam space.
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Good deal! The V3 is a definite upgrade. The original pre was good too, not knocking them. But proof is in the pudding as they say. You know it when you feel it.
deadpool_25
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Got the other pre in now.
deadpool_25
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Stereo is awesome. I'm using a pair of V3 equipped FR-12s as the stereo speakers in a WDW setup.
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Very nice --- this is where my brain is heading too.
toneseeker911
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The v3 preamps are a great upgrade, the tone controls are so much more effective. 1000W or 130dB etc don’t seem accurate. With one FR10, it was a struggle to keep up in a loud rock band. Got a second one and I just stack them.
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That comes as no surprise.
Two FR10s = $1200.00. Two archangel preamps = $260.00. You've got $1460.00 in your two-FR10 rig. If you've gotta have two - and you've had to spend extra money and time modding them - you could instead have bought a powered monitor with enough SPL output to keep up with a band and have real money left over. You can get a killer monitor for less than $1460.00.
