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la szum said:
I kind of liked that Album. A lot. Octavarium?

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I'm not dumping on any specific album, I love a lot of the stuff on every album. I just liked it better when the songs weren't so specific and separated. But reading what I wrote, they probably went that way on purpose, to reach more people.
 
Badonkey Kong said:
I'm not dumping on any specific album, I love a lot of the stuff on every album. I just liked it better when the songs weren't so specific and separated. But reading what I wrote, they probably went that way on purpose, to reach more people.
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I know which Album had a U2 song ad a Muse song, though. :rofl

I think I enjoyed it because the songs were tight and the
arrangements were not as Dream Theater-ish as previous
Albums were. I can see why some fans of DT would hate
that shit, though.

I fully expect the new Album to have only 6 songs on it,
and all the meandering prog a guy or gal can stomach. :beer
 
Listening to A Dramatic Turn of Events right now, and to me, this album was a return to form for them after Systematic Chaos and Black Clouds, despite the crazy similarities of On the Backs of Angels to Pull Me Under. There's a lot of interplay and carefully composed parts that are woven through it, much like those 3 albums i mentioned.

I wonder what this album would have been like with MP drumming...
 
la szum said:
Octavarium is in my Top 3.

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When starting to work on what would become Octavarium, Portnoy noted that it would be their eighth studio album and that they had recently released their fifth live album, Live at Budokan. This sequence mirrored the octave on a musical keyboard: each octave contains eight naturals and five accidentals. Portnoy suggested that they use that concept for the entire album.[11] When writing, the band delegated each song a different key. Sound effects were placed between songs to connect them: for example, "The Root of All Evil", written in F minor, and the following track, "The Answer Lies Within", written in G minor, were connected by a sound effect in the key of F♯ minor. The album's lyrics and song titles featured references to this concept. Portnoy cited the titles "The Root of all Evil" (referring to the musical term "root") and "Octavarium" ("the octave of the octave") as two examples of this.
 
My faves are, but I cannot rank them, are right in the middle, sort of:

FII
SFAM
6°
ToT
8va
SC

FII is probably my favorite, not necessarily b/c of the songs, but that was the disc that got me into DT. (Even though, believe it or not, my cousin had tried to introduce me to I&W years earlier, but I was like, meh.)
 
TSJMajesty said:
Did you know:

Concept​

When starting to work on what would become Octavarium, Portnoy noted that it would be their eighth studio album and that they had recently released their fifth live album, Live at Budokan. This sequence mirrored the octave on a musical keyboard: each octave contains eight naturals and five accidentals. Portnoy suggested that they use that concept for the entire album.[11] When writing, the band delegated each song a different key. Sound effects were placed between songs to connect them: for example, "The Root of All Evil", written in F minor, and the following track, "The Answer Lies Within", written in G minor, were connected by a sound effect in the key of F♯ minor. The album's lyrics and song titles featured references to this concept. Portnoy cited the titles "The Root of all Evil" (referring to the musical term "root") and "Octavarium" ("the octave of the octave") as two examples of this.
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Fuckin' dorks.

(I'm kidding, teenage me would be eating that shit up and telling everyone about it)
 
It’s interesting to me, to see how varied opinions are about different DT songs and albums, even amongst their more devoted fans. I just read in the Facebook DT group someone say that they first heard Images and Words and didn’t like the band. He later heard Falling Into Infinity, and has loved the band ever since, bought every album… And to this day, thinks Falling Into Infinity is their greatest album.

That is the most widely panned DT album from what I’ve seen, while I&W was the gateway drug for MANY fans (me!).

It’s always seemed to me that despite the complexity of their music, opinions vary widely on much of it. That same discussion had many of the “every album since X has sucked!” And “this is the only good song on X album “ and all kinds of other disapproving comments, from people who joined a fan group.

They’ve had a LONG career by industry standards, and can’t do the same things over and over. I think they’ve pulled it off brilliantly for the most part.
 
MindCrime said:
For me, I&W and Awake. For years I've thought Awake was a masterpeice. I still do !

I still keep up with DT. I have ever since I first heard "Pull Me Under". Sometime in '92 IIRC.
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Yes, for me it was actually after I&W, A Change of Seasons and Awake, then I discovered When Dream and Day Unite after those. I LOVE all three of those and thought I&W was their first. Didn’t realize until probably 4 years after becoming a fan, that they had a release prior to I&W
 
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I remember hearing Pull Me Under on Pirate Radio (R.I.P.) back in 92, i would crank the stereo every time i heard it starting... Not sure why, but I didn't buy the disc right away. Went to see them at the Troubadour in Hollywood just knowing that one song.... Holy crap. I was so blown away... I was at Tower Records the next morning when it opened. :D James had mentioned during the show about going back to the "first album" for some of the songs they played, so I knew then they had another album, but it took a year or two to track it down.
 
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Badonkey Kong said:
I remember hearing Pull Me Under on Pirate Radio (R.I.P.) back in 92, i would crank the stereo every time i heard it starting... Not sure why, but I didn't buy the disc right away. Went to see them at the Troubadour in Hollywood just knowing that one song.... Holy crap. I was so blown away... I was at Tower Records the next morning when it opened. :D James had mentioned during the show about going back to the "first album" for some of the songs they played, so I knew then they had another album, but it took a year or two to track it down.
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I heard Pull Me Under on Headbangers Ball and LOVED IT! After about 4 weeks of staying up way late just to see that song, they played Take The Time and I was hooked big time!

But, before I could even buy the album, we went night fishing the next Saturday night and it started raining just before midnight. Just a light shower, and it wasn’t supposed to last, so instead of heading home, we sat it out in the car. WTUE Dayton did their Midnight Theater and played the whole Images and Words album. It stopped raining after 4 songs. I didn’t even think about getting out of the car until it was over and drove 40 miles (took 3 stores to find it) to get it the next day.

(I think you’ve heard this before, but…) I immediately considered them one of my favorite bands. Then Awake came out. I heard Lie on Headbangers Ball and couldn’t wait to get it. Got it, and one listen in declared them my all time favorite band, which is a position they’ve held since then. I have seen them every time they’ve been to Cincinnati. And YES, I even enjoyed (LOVED) The Astonishing tour! :p
 
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I just had a flashback of my early DT days; there was zero live content available when I got into them (95-96) and no YouTube. I had it in my head for a while that they could only play certain songs from their albums because of everything being so challenging. The first live thing I got was Live In Tokyo on VHS (outside of the live stuff on ACOS) and while “Metropolis” isn’t on it, they play the intro music at some point and I remember thinking “They must not play that one live because it’s so crazy”

I was already fanatical at that point, so once I finally started getting my hands on bootlegs and more live footage came my way, I just went to full on devout nut. Hadn’t thought about that in a long time.
 
DrewJD82 said:
I just had a flashback of my early DT days; there was zero live content available when I got into them (95-96) and no YouTube. I had it in my head for a while that they could only play certain songs from their albums because of everything being so challenging. The first live thing I got was Live In Tokyo on VHS (outside of the live stuff on ACOS) and while “Metropolis” isn’t on it, they play the intro music at some point and I remember thinking “They must not play that one live because it’s so crazy”

I was already fanatical at that point, so once I finally started getting my hands on bootlegs and more live footage came my way, I just went to full on devout nut. Hadn’t thought about that in a long time.
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I’ve seen them do things live that border on the unbelievable. John, and Jordan (and sometimes them AND John M) playing extremely intricate riffs, at 200mph and in perfect unison. You hear the album and figure on a given show, ONE of them would be lucky to play their part perfectly, then you watch all three do it perfectly and perfectly together. You just kind of stare with your jaw hanging open.
 
Aright guys, wtf? 4 months ago JP said he was done recording guitars for the new album, their short European tour starts in less than 2 months, yet no word about the new music!! :pitchforks

That tour isn't being billed as promoting the new album. I'm wondering if they plan on playing any of the new songs, as I'm sure most anyone is who has tickets for one of those shows.

Or are they going to release the new album in time for that tour? Damn! Tell us something!!

Do like Muse did on their last 2 albums, and release a song already!! :hmm
 
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