Dark Side of The Moon Redux

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My old Sicilian friend who has 20 years on me was telling me about seeing them in 1974 on the DSOTM Tour
last night. He has stories galore, but this was my fave. By far!

So jelly! Told me their encore was Echoes, after playing the album in its entirety. Fuck!
 
I love Pink Floyd, they are one of my favourite band.

I really admire what Roger Waters did for the band and I 100% agree with @la szum about PF sounding waaaaay better with him in the band.

I like Waters live shows more than Gilmour's ones.

But this shit?
No thank you.

This is a pure egomaniac byproduct.
No thank you, Roger.

Dear Roger, you really fucked up this time. DSOTM is one of the greatest examples of what a band can achieve together, is a perfect examples of a sum being greater than the parts.

Wtf Roger!
 
The sound track on the Theatrical Trailer of The Flash is x1,000,000 better than that

 
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Piing said:
Anyway, just listen to what the guy has to say
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I stopped listening to what comes out of that guy's mouth years ago. I love the man's music (mostly) but he's a jerk of a person a lot of the time. Guess you have to be to come up with some of the lyrics he writes.

"You've got to be trusted by the people that you lie to, so that when they turn their backs on you, you'll get the chance to put the knife in."
 
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Almost was about to open a new thread, then found this one. Album got released 6 days ago. And it's up on YT in full glory (even officially on Waters' channel).


Ok. What could I possibly say? I have been aware of the previews/trailers available and already knew I wouldn't like it. But still, the actual release is taking it quite some steps further.

There's very good reasons why the original has made it onto pretty much any list of the most iconic and influential (art/psyche-) pop/rock albums of all times, even if it's not your style or whatever. The writing, the performances, the technical achievements, the album as a conceptual art thing, you name it.

Waters is kicking all of that with his feet. If there ever was something like that, he commited a musical sacrilege of the highest order.
Even if I wouldn't know the original at all, this "album" is a collection of super lame, same-ish sounding "performances". Average-at-best synth sounds, a drum library (please don't tell me it's a real drummer...) possibly trying to sort of resemble Mason's rather lush-tuned set but completely failing and rather sounding like the cheesiest drum machine from the 80s, pretty much zero guitars (at least not a single memorable one) to start with. And on top of that Waters' sonorous mumbling, sounding exactly the same all the time, regardless whether it's supposed to be spoken or sung.

I have no idea why he did that, which audience this might be for (possibly "we hate the other Floydians" fanbois for the most part), but given the status of the original, this has to be one of the most disgusting musical exhibits ever.
 
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Sascha Franck said:
Almost was about to open a new thread, then found this one. Album got released 6 days ago. And it's up on YT in full glory (even officially on Waters' channel).


Ok. What could I possibly say? I have been aware of the previews/trailers available and already knew I wouldn't like it. But still, the actual release is taking it quite some steps further.

There's very good reasons why the original has made it in pretty much any list of the most iconic and influential (art/psyche-) pop/rock albums of all times, even if it's not your style or whatever. The writing, the performances, the technical achievements, the album as a conceptual art thing, you name it.

Waters is kicking all of that with his feet. If there ever was something like that, he commited a musical sacrilege of the highest order.
Even if I wouldn't know the original at all, this "album" is a collection of super lame, same-ish sounding "performances". Average-at-best synth sounds, a drum library (please don't tell me it's a real drummer...) possibly trying to sort of resemble Mason's rather lush-tuned set but completely failing and rather sounding like the cheesiest drum machine from the 80s, pretty much zero guitars (at least not a single memorable one) to start with. And on top of that Waters' sonorous mumbling, sounding exactly the same all the time, regardless whether it's supposed to be spoken or sung.

I have no idea why he did that, which audience this might be for (possibly "we hate the other Floydians" fanbois for the most part), but given the status of the original, this has to be one of the most disgusting musical exhibits ever.
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Well, this will easily be my favorite Sascha post of all time.

I just don’t understand the ‘need’ for it, Roger isn’t hurting for cash and this does absolutely nothing for to uphold the original in any kind of tribute or anything. This comes off as nothing more than something for Roger to hold in his hand and say “I did Dark Side all by my sell”.

Listening to that clip Piing posted, Roger can fuck right off. There’s nothing “more” about this new album, it’s not “closer” to anything DSOTM was. Dude should be happy people pay to watch him lipsync while he does what he’s always done; rely on all the musicians around him to carry his ass.
 
la szum said:
Floyd still sounded better with him in the band, and with his input in the songwriting. By a loooooong ways,
in my opinion.
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It's hard to argue with the classic PF lineup and output. I love all their albums -- but with that said, the 2 I've listened to the most (at least in the last 20 yrs) have been A Momentary Lapse of Reason and The Division Bell, which weirdly has no Roger. :grin
 
DrewJD82 said:
This comes off as nothing more than something for Roger to hold in his hand and say “I did Dark Side all by my sell”.
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I think it's also kinda like a "that'll teach 'em!" thing. Possibly aiming at his former bandmates (and of course namely Gilmour).
"Look, I own the song's rights, so I can do whatever I want and your shitty performances should've never made it into the original in the first place!"

You can skip to absolutely every position in every tune - you'll end up with maximum embarassment.

WTF could be the reason for a "redux" version of "Great Gig In The Sky"? The only thing you can do to this maximum iconic piece is to a) copy it as good as possible for live performances (and while there's some singers really nailing it, I'd rather not touch that particular one, even if it was just to honor Clare Torry) or b) just leave it alone, documenting one of the greatest "it just happened" moments in popular music. No need to ever (re-)touch it again, it's pretty much absolutely perfect as is.

Before listening to this shocking musical desaster, I was still thinking that Waters might, just perhaps, have something to offer that slipped through on the originals. Or he might have a fresh idea on how to do things in 22/23. But nothing.
Instead, everything the original is about apart from the writing, has been eliminated. The performance and production value of this new version trends towards zero - whereas these have been elemental aspects of the original. They supported the writing and gave you the whole picture rather than a mediocre, blurred impression of whatever.

Now, one thing this new version might be supposed to demonstrate would be "see, good songwriting works without all the bling-bling".
Just that it doesn't. Not in the case of PF.
The various sonical aspects have always been a huge, integral part of PF's portfolio. Heck, there's half hour long instrumental psychedelic things only working due to their wild sound manipulations and such.

Yeah, some songs would defenitely work in an even easier setup (acoustic guitar and vocals), but PF simply ain't no Johnny Cash, hence this DSOTM rendition is no "American Recordings", either. Not even close. With Cash, it was reduction to the most necessary elements, with Waters it's a selfish parody kinda thing.

Add to this those songs where it doesn't even remotely work. "Great Gig In The Sky" simply isn't a PF song but great harmonies from Rick Wright laid out leading to an impromptu "composition" (if you will) of Ms. Torry. "On The Run" isn't a PF song, either. It's some lyrics they could only effectively use because they were fooling around with that EMS Synthi AKS beforehand.

Also, unlike the mentioned Cash, PF has alway been into whatever bigger-than-life-unheard-as-of-yet things and most memorable instrumental performances (with Gilmours parts obviously standing out, but Wright hasn't been a slouch, either, there's some incredibly great harmonies played through killer sounds). Taking these out completely doesn't do the material (and original intention, too) justice. If you wanted to do so, you'd have to come up with something else instead but the generic backings that this album is full of.

Seriously, this is shockingly bad.
 
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