Brigadier or Memory Lane Jr V2 ?

[la szum]

I like quirky and lots of personality. The more character something had the better. For me.

I find the more utilitarian stuff less interesting, if more usable in a wider variety of settings.

 

[Stone]

I mean... sure, yes I suppose.

I have 2 completely different setups. On the one side, tube amps and pedals; and on the other the FM9 with everything in the box. I'm currently spending my time split between them equally.

As you know, I didn't sell the Bella in the end, so I've been enjoying having that in the house while it lasts, even though modelling makes the ultimate sense for me and eventually the Bella will probably go. And then there's a Princeton too... which I feel I'll probably always have unless I jump between countries again (and sell all the heavy stuff). I'm just enjoying trying out different (mostly delay) pedals at the moment.

Bella into a Suhr Riot wooot !!

 

[jellodog]

Bella into a Suhr Riot wooot !!

 

[Stone]

@ 2:11

Meow !

 

[jellodog]

Sure... but you said ...

OK. Doesn't matter!

How much sugar was consumed here?

 

[Stone]

Ive been exploring Drives and dives in the Fractal

but there a lot more id love to see in future updates

 

[jellodog]

Aww.. but... but we were talking about delays

 

[Stone]

Aww.. but... but we were talking about delays

Hahaha yes i get sidetracked easily, especially these days
I need to curb my enthousiasm

 

[la szum]

 

[jellodog]

but there a lot more id love to see in future updates

Ohohohoh don't you worry about that. Updates is what they do!

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The last one I had lasted less than 6 months before it blew up. (although it may have been my fault)

Like he said, good ol' classics!

 

[Stone]

Ohohohoh don't you worry about that. Updates is what they do!

I'll create a new post on Fractal drives a poll as to what drives pedals would TGF'ers like to see in future updates
but that will be tomorrow

 

[V|J]

The Mythos Oracle peaks my interest for BBD delays.
How about that one

 

[jellodog]

The Mythos Oracle peaks my interest for BBD delays.
How about that one

Unfortunately it doesn't have modulation. Modulation is part of the attraction of it for me (and was why I loved my DMM Nano).

I'm also wary of the "real hardware" having had an analog BBD fail already - the only pedal that has ever broken. Perhaps I'll give in and go real analog again, though.

 

[Cirrus]

Allow me to help you, poor lost soul:

The beauty of a good properly analogue BBD delay is matched by nothing else. You will be a terrible fool to get a digital recreation. Possibly, you will die if you try. All BBD delays have *something* about them that's an annoying compromise or workflow limitation, but it's worth it and honestly part of their beauty often lies in exactly those limitations.

For pure tone and depth of lush modulation glory, the DMM is unsurpassed. I had a TT1100 for a year or so. Loved it, the downside is they're often quite noisy on low notes and longer delay settings - the "dust bunny" hiss where the noise is integral to the repeats, as opposed to noise floor.

The Rubberneck is fantastic. It's not as lush as the DMM, nothing is. And the modulation shape isn't quite as interesting, it sounds more like a standard sine wave. But it's still a glorious sounding box and very flexible with the tone and gain controls in the feedback loop.

A slightly left field one: Death By Audio Echo Dream 2. It's got beautiful modulation, a great melt-to-ringing-midrange feedback path, and does really wierd interesting glitchy stuff once you get over 400ms or so.

As a general point, I don't think it's really possible to properly judge a delay in a youtube demo. You need to be playing, get inside the soundscape, see how the relationship between the dry signal and ambience *feels* as you move within it. The beauty of the DMM, for example, isn't apparent just by listening; it's that you can have the wet signal cranked really high, but not feel like the dry signal is being overwhelmed. So in a practical context it's great for getting more delay forward in a mix without fucking up your part.

 

[jellodog]

Allow me to help you, poor lost soul:

The beauty of a good properly analogue BBD delay is matched by nothing else. You will be a terrible fool to get a digital recreation. Possibly, you will die if you try. All BBD delays have *something* about them that's an annoying compromise or workflow limitation, but it's worth it and honestly part of their beauty often lies in exactly those limitations.

For pure tone and depth of lush modulation glory, the DMM is unsurpassed. I had a TT1100 for a year or so. Loved it, the downside is they're often quite noisy on low notes and longer delay settings - the "dust bunny" hiss where the noise is integral to the repeats, as opposed to noise floor.

The Rubberneck is fantastic. It's not as lush as the DMM, nothing is. And the modulation shape isn't quite as interesting, it sounds more like a standard sine wave. But it's still a glorious sounding box and very flexible with the tone and gain controls in the feedback loop.

A slightly left field one: Death By Audio Echo Dream 2. It's got beautiful modulation, a great melt-to-ringing-midrange feedback path, and does really wierd interesting glitchy stuff once you get over 400ms or so.

As a general point, I don't think it's really possible to properly judge a delay in a youtube demo. You need to be playing, get inside the soundscape, see how the relationship between the dry signal and ambience *feels* as you move within it. The beauty of the DMM, for example, isn't apparent just by listening; it's that you can have the wet signal cranked really high, but not feel like the dry signal is being overwhelmed. So in a practical context it's great for getting more delay forward in a mix without f*****g up your part.

Right... but have you tried the Brigadier?

( I don't want to die )

 

[Orvillain]

Allow me to help you, poor lost soul:

The beauty of a good properly analogue BBD delay is matched by nothing else. You will be a terrible fool to get a digital recreation. Possibly, you will die if you try. All BBD delays have *something* about them that's an annoying compromise or workflow limitation, but it's worth it and honestly part of their beauty often lies in exactly those limitations.

For pure tone and depth of lush modulation glory, the DMM is unsurpassed. I had a TT1100 for a year or so. Loved it, the downside is they're often quite noisy on low notes and longer delay settings - the "dust bunny" hiss where the noise is integral to the repeats, as opposed to noise floor.

The Rubberneck is fantastic. It's not as lush as the DMM, nothing is. And the modulation shape isn't quite as interesting, it sounds more like a standard sine wave. But it's still a glorious sounding box and very flexible with the tone and gain controls in the feedback loop.

A slightly left field one: Death By Audio Echo Dream 2. It's got beautiful modulation, a great melt-to-ringing-midrange feedback path, and does really wierd interesting glitchy stuff once you get over 400ms or so.

As a general point, I don't think it's really possible to properly judge a delay in a youtube demo. You need to be playing, get inside the soundscape, see how the relationship between the dry signal and ambience *feels* as you move within it. The beauty of the DMM, for example, isn't apparent just by listening; it's that you can have the wet signal cranked really high, but not feel like the dry signal is being overwhelmed. So in a practical context it's great for getting more delay forward in a mix without f*****g up your part.

So sayeth the Lord.

 

[Whizzinby]

Allow me to help you, poor lost soul:

The beauty of a good properly analogue BBD delay is matched by nothing else. You will be a terrible fool to get a digital recreation. Possibly, you will die if you try. All BBD delays have *something* about them that's an annoying compromise or workflow limitation, but it's worth it and honestly part of their beauty often lies in exactly those limitations.

For pure tone and depth of lush modulation glory, the DMM is unsurpassed. I had a TT1100 for a year or so. Loved it, the downside is they're often quite noisy on low notes and longer delay settings - the "dust bunny" hiss where the noise is integral to the repeats, as opposed to noise floor.

The Rubberneck is fantastic. It's not as lush as the DMM, nothing is. And the modulation shape isn't quite as interesting, it sounds more like a standard sine wave. But it's still a glorious sounding box and very flexible with the tone and gain controls in the feedback loop.

A slightly left field one: Death By Audio Echo Dream 2. It's got beautiful modulation, a great melt-to-ringing-midrange feedback path, and does really wierd interesting glitchy stuff once you get over 400ms or so.

As a general point, I don't think it's really possible to properly judge a delay in a youtube demo. You need to be playing, get inside the soundscape, see how the relationship between the dry signal and ambience *feels* as you move within it. The beauty of the DMM, for example, isn't apparent just by listening; it's that you can have the wet signal cranked really high, but not feel like the dry signal is being overwhelmed. So in a practical context it's great for getting more delay forward in a mix without f*****g up your part.

Sold.

 

[V|J]

Unfortunately it doesn't have modulation. Modulation is part of the attraction of it for me (and was why I loved my DMM Nano).

I'm also wary of the "real hardware" having had an analog BBD fail already - the only pedal that has ever broken. Perhaps I'll give in and go real analog again, though.

I guess you did mention that earlier.

I just love the aesthetics of the oracle; don’t own one. Easier to spend someone else’s money

 

[jellodog]

I just love the aesthetics of the oracle

Totally! It looks great - I am in love with that colour