School me on the Celestion Creamback Speaker(s)

[Frankencat]

I looked up some comparison videos online and it seems the Neo is a bit scooped and sounds like a very different speaker than the H75 and M65. The mids on the H75 and M65 really complement a V30 well IMO whereas the NeoCB seems to be bringing in some fizzle and boom and not much else. The other two fill out the mids that a V30 doesn’t have in a very satisfying way!

Sitting in front of the Neo and the M65 I don't hear that. They sound almost identical except the Neo is a little tighter/stiffer.

 

[KingsXJJ]

Just Creamback 65’s or EVH Greenbacks for me. I’m good.

 

[Alex Kenivel]

I have a 65 I've transplanted into a couple different combo amps. It's sitting in a Katana 100.2 and has been gigged a few times. I like it.

I also have a 2x12 with Greenbacks. In comparison I'd say the Creamback is more polite especially in the top end but comparing a 1x12 to a 2x12 isn't so straightforward

 

[Night Stalker]

The sum of my experience with Creambacks is my Rivera Thirty Twelve combo. I have never been completely happy with a combo amp before. To me, they're always a major compromise. But this amp with this 65 watt Creamback is so good. It sounds so thick, middy, and creamy. In my experience, combos are usually mid heavy, but the mids always sound boxy and strident. I'm not sure how mush is the amp, and how much is the speaker, but I'd be interested to try this speaker with other combo amps to see what it does.

 

[saarangnarayan]

The sum of my experience with Creambacks is my Rivera Thirty Twelve combo. I have never been completely happy with a combo amp before. To me, they're always a major compromise. But this amp with this 65 watt Creamback is so good. It sounds so thick, middy, and creamy. In my experience, combos are usually mid heavy, but the mids always sound boxy and strident. I'm not sure how mush is the amp, and how much is the speaker, but I'd be interested to try this speaker with other combo amps to see what it does.

What kind of tones do you use it for?

 

[maguchi]

Okay so I've heard multiple folks say this that as you mature, you realise that a Creamback is the way to go instead of Greenbacks or V30s. While I am not really giving up on the V30 anytime soon, I have begun to realise Creambacks are maybe more my jam than Greenbacks. I have only ever tried the Creambacks in the IR world, so I have no real-world experience to back this up, but I do think the Creamback fills in some of the frequencies that are (at least to my ears) missing in a Greenback. Buuuuut, I also realise that there are multiple kinds of Creambacks, both rating-wise (55 vs. 65 vs. 75, I think?) and also H and M magnets, and also a Neodymium version. I'd love to hear from more experienced folks about which version excels at what and basically what you like (or dislike!) about Creambacks.

I got a Orange OR-15 head with a PPC-212V almost a year ago and play it almost every day. It's got the Celestion G12 Neo Creambacks in it. The speakers sounded good when I first got it. And they really started to sound great once they broke in after about a month of playing it every day for a couple hours. On the current Orange 2x12 cabs the horizontal cabs got Celestion Vintage 30s and the vertical cabs got Celestion G12 Neo Creambacks.

I also have amps with a Celestion Vintage 30 and a Celestion G12M Greenback and I like those a lot too. However those two Celestion speakers are in diffrent amps with very diffrent character, so I haven't compared them for sound or made a decision about which I like better..

 

[Night Stalker]

What kind of tones do you use it for?

Just lately, we've been jamming a lot of 90s & 00s stuff, a lot of STP, AIC, Velvet Revolver, GNR, Kravitz, Foos, Crowes, QOTSA. Stuff like that.