Stratzrus
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I’m out!
I always wonder what's going on when a person who recently joined a forum goes on and on with multiple posts bashing a product from a particular brand. That's why I never jumped in.
I’m out!
2.5-3 master volume. If I dont use eq it's just all midrange. Might sound good in the mix but sucks ass played in the roomHow are you setting your FM3 amp block master volumes? A lot of the amp models default to a pretty much cranked setting so you might find they turn to mush if you pile on a lot of gain.
There should be no lack of clarity or dimension to the sound.
For reference, I don't ever feel I need to use EQ blocks with my Fractal. Amp/Cab block settings alone are usually more than enough to get tones I like, regardless of genre.
If you refer to me Im not bashing anything. It's my experience with my unit and others have different opinnions. I never said Fractal sucks. I said I cant make it sound good enough for meI always wonder what's going on when a person who recently joined a forum goes on and on with multiple posts bashing a product from a particular brand. That's why I never jumped in.
I’ve go no experience with the 7’s outside of the minute I listened to them at GC when I compared all 3 sizes. I really wasn’t focused on them because as soon as I heard the 8’s, I was hearing all the stuff I was missing in the 5’s. They’ve definitely got quite a bit of body to them, there’s no issues there.
My entire issue is just translating what I’ve been dialing in on those 5’s for years now, in on the 8’s, in the context of a mix. Not solo playing or anything.
Cabs are the answer, if you’re wanting that more immersive in the room experience. What you feed to that cab (amp, modeler etc.) is kind of irrelevant.
Same as going to monitors. Once you run it back through IR’s to monitors it’s kinda irrelevant what’s feeding it. (Modeler, amp)
Playback method is the only distinguishing factor, not the source.
That money for preamp is covered. I get it back when I decide what to sell. It's not that I cant pay bills because of it. And If I sell my fm3 eventually, I'll get 2nd hand audio interface for sure. I buy all my gear 2nd hand so I dont lose moneyMy first direct rig was a Studio Preamp with an Alesis Quadraverb GT in the loop; speaker cab simulator on in the Quadraverb and used speaker emulated outs of the Studio Pre -- running those two (really shitty) analog cab sims in series seemed to kinda work, I'm guessing because it effectively steepened up the EQ cutoffs significantly. So yeah, the Studio Preamp will probably sound alright using it the way you propose.
I occasionally get a pang for that rig, but then look at prices and remember that I paid $119 for mine on ebay in 1997 when all of that stuff was going for super cheap since racks were uncool. I DID splurge on a Syn-2 and a few modules but . . . it was a pretty big splurge that I almost regretted when an unexpected $3k medical bill landed in the mailbox a couple months after I bought it...and I'm, not to be rude, pretty gainfully employed.
As a value proposition -- if you've got plugins that you think sound good, and you're going to be stuck playing at super low volumes or with headphones, AND you already have a Kraken preamp, AAAAANNNNNDDD you are currently unemployed...just chill for a bit. Maybe consider selling the FM3 if you don't love it and snagging a super cheap audio interface (I happily used a Behringer for many years alongside Fractal, etc. and don't consider the Universal Audio Solo I have now to be a huge sonic upgrade).
It sounds like you know what you're going to do, so good luck with it all. Cheers.That money for preamp is covered. I get it back when I decide what to sell. It's not that I cant pay bills because of it. And If I sell my fm3 eventually, I'll get 2nd hand audio interface for sure. I buy all my gear 2nd hand so I dont lose money
That sounds very weird. You don't have excessive low/high cuts in the cab block, right?If I dont use eq it's just all midrange. Might sound good in the mix but sucks ass played in the room
You probably know but so much goes into a recorded guitar tone. Having the same gear is just the very tip of the iceberg. Also, a guitar tone that sounds good to you alone may not hold any weight in a mix. JP isn't playing in isolation. Many factors go in to make that sound.It was recorded using mesa quad preamp.
The Mesa Mark and Triaxis models on the Fractal are very good though, so I don't see getting those tones out of it shouldn't be some insurmountable task.Usually I limit cab maybe something like 75-11500hz. I dont have time now to do anything guitar related, but I love petrucci's tone on images&words record. It was recorded using mesa quad preamp. Live he used triaxis back then. If you watch Leon's video of petrucci tone in 5mins and compare it to petrucci testing his signature mesa there is SOME difference. I know things would be different if I had a power amp and 2x12 mesa cab. But thats not gonna happen. I know that set up would work for fm3 but it's not possibility for me now.
The problem for me was that I don't enjoy the workflow of sitting in front of my computer to dial in my tone. I prefer hands on with physical dials and switches and so far, a real amp is the only thing the provides that.
Yeah that’s the knock-on effect of digital, everything morphing to a computer/software based interaction. There is a certain dorkification of gear with a lot of these solutions. (Noting I am a dork) The simplicity of an amp makes it a relatively pure and fun experience. Flip a switch, twist three or four knobs, hit an A chord and enjoy the roar.