Another electradyne thread

[spawnofthesith]

If that's not a sign then I am sure you can find one somewhere else.

Congrats on the raise!

Thanks!

The one I'm looking at is currently loaded with EL34s. Honestly surprised it's still available with how long its been listed. Seems legitimate though, and located in fancy golf course neighborhood he's shot down two trade fodder offers I've tossed at him. Tempted to make a lower offer since its been sitting but don't wanna push it too much on an already fairly priced amp

What are your thoughts on the gain levels available and the gain trim feature?

 

[la szum]

What are you aiming at specifically? I know you have some special use case scenarios
that not everyone would have.

Really, I don't want to type out too much, or reread the entire thread. I worked all damn
day to be lazy this evening.

 

[spawnofthesith]

What are you aiming at specifically? I know you have some special use case scenarios
that not everyone would have.

Really, I don't want to type out too much, or reread the entire thread. I worked all damn
day to be lazy this evening.

How do you feel it performs switching between a pretty clean clean and as much of a high gain sound as it can put out on its own with the shared controls? The gain trim seems to exist to help out with that

I'd probably just have to find out for whether or not the different modes pad the fx return like many other mesas or if it just behaves like a normal fkn loop I've made my peace with that though and developed some work arounds. Mesa tone is worth it

 

[la szum]

Honestly, I don't know.

I never switch channels mid song. Like ever. I live on one channel and then
ride my volume knob (an/or engage a boost/od). Only time I use a Clean Channel
is when recording, or as a strict pedal platform.

But yeah, those features are not something I can comment on with any insight.
I try and make every amp a Plexi/JCM800. Channel switching is just too jarring
for me. I don't want to relive the trauma.

I can also imagine that Loopers/Modes/Channel Switching/FX Loops all interacting
at the same time can also be traumatic at times.

 

[JiveTurkey]

How do you feel it performs switching between a pretty clean clean and as much of a high gain sound as it can put out on its own with the shared controls? The gain trim seems to exist to help out with that

I'd probably just have to find out for whether or not the different modes pad the fx return like many other mesas or if it just behaves like a normal fkn loop I've made my peace with that though and developed some work arounds. Mesa tone is worth it

@TubeStack is your boy.

 

[spawnofthesith]

@TubeStack is your boy.

He did fill me in a bit on the trim!

I guess perhaps since he's using a different preamp source might have an idea on how the power amp section impacts whats coming in on the FX return!

Thoughts @TubeStack ? Both my mark IV , V and Roadster all have a volume shift and a bit of a tonal shift too on a looper playing into the fx return when changing channels, any idea on the dyne? IIRC the loop in the express 5:50 did -not- do thjis

 

[JiveTurkey]

The VII return levels were all over the place for these kinds of applications.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Nice…
If that handheldsailsonice is since 2/3 years…those are “wings” probably.
I do that on water with hydrofoils…not so much ice around here last decade..
If I had been female, 20 years younger, lived in Maui and had 10x the skills I have for it…I could have looked like this :

Dude, I've been watching wing foil videos all day. I DON'T need another hobby. I DON'T need another hobby.

If that's not a sign then I am sure you can find one somewhere else.

Congrats on the raise!

 

[spawnofthesith]

The VII return levels were all over the place for these kinds of applications.

yeah when I got the roadster and was experiencing this I contacted Mesa and they called me back and told me that his VIi was like this too and that’s just the way these intricate circuits work

But why?? Nearly Every other amp on the market doesn’t change how the return “listens” when you change channels. Can’t think of a good reason for it lol

Then again I prefer Mesa tone to every other amp so maybe there is something to it

 

[spawnofthesith]

Speaking of funky returns I had a loop stored in my looper that would be chugs coming from the mark IV send, for shits n giggles I tried playing that through the return of the Mk V. Sounded very not good…. Looked it up and apparently the Mark IV GEQ is after the loop and the Mark V GEQ is before the loop so that signal just missed out on my generous V shape entirely from either amp

 

[la szum]

 

[TubeStack]

This is of slight concern to me, calling myself a metal player would be a big stretch but definitely get a bit chuggy like 15-20% of the time lol. I suppose I could always rig up some more complex switching to one tap channel changing and a boost at the same time though. At the same time I've found some clips that seem to demonstrate enough gain/bottom end/sizzle that I -think- might do the trick for my needs. Always hard to tell with YT videos tho lol

Oops, I wrote this earlier and didn't hit "post":

Yeah, it's hard to know until trying it yourself, as you know. But I think it's definitely an amp worth trying and experiencing, even if you end up moving it on, especially for a Mesa lover/connoisseur like yourself.

A few other general points from my experience (been my #1 amp for 7 years now):

- master volume is comically loud VERY early on the dial; like I've I've done pretty loud gigs with it set to just 7:30-8 o'clock; we also rehearse quite loud, in a big room with high ceilings, and I never have it above 9:30 (although I'm using a Mesa 4x12 in that situation )

- also requires a surgeon's touch to make quick adjustments while playing, the slightest movement can cause a big jump in volume

- I much prefer the amp with V30s, they give it the upper-mid kerrang it needs; find it way too dark and tubby with C90s

- blue crunch is the money channel for me, I could live there all my life (basically do)

- but in addtion to that, the clean channel is immense and really, really great; some use it as a pedal platform

- some noted Electra Dyne lovers: Kim Thayil, Bruce Springsteen (he replaced his Mark III of 30 years with it, interestingly); I think Thayil uses it just for the cleans, but I think others have corrected me on that? Read that somwewhere, at some point, though.

- early versions of the amp don't have the trim function you're asking about, that was added after release to help balance out the channels; so I would check and make sure this one has it

- spring reverb is great, but if you want it defeated on crunch, it will be on clean + hi gain, can't have it on clean only

 

[TubeStack]

He did fill me in a bit on the trim!

I guess perhaps since he's using a different preamp source might have an idea on how the power amp section impacts whats coming in on the FX return!

Thoughts @TubeStack ? Both my mark IV , V and Roadster all have a volume shift and a bit of a tonal shift too on a looper playing into the fx return when changing channels, any idea on the dyne? IIRC the loop in the express 5:50 did -not- do thjis

I'm not sure about the loop and what you're describing with the Marks and Roadsters... sorry. I spend about 95% of my time on blue crunch, with the occasional big clean that is fantastic when it happens. I don't use the red hi gain channel at all. I've tried, but I much prefer to boost the blue. It takes boost pedals and just eats them, LOVES them.

I know some funky things happen when I use the Helix tuner in 4cm, like there's some bleed-through sound with reverb on it, it's not totally muted, very distant and quiet, but I can't remember the scenario that causes that, in terms of channels. It may be a 45W thing, can't remember.

Which by the way, I never use, strictly 90W FTW, baby! That Simul-Class is a huge part of the magic, for me.

Oh and lastly, I've tried it with EL34s but much preferred 6L6s. It lost the Dyne hugeness that is a big part of the fun, for me.

 

[TubeStack]

Obviously a biased opinion, but I say give it a go! Worst that can happen is you don't like it and move it on. For me, it's been my "end the search" amp for a long time now. Anything else I try, I always like the Dyne better. And in the smaller head version, it's an incredible amount of tone and power in a pretty manageable size/weight. (I have both a small head and the regular big one.)

I've posted this before, but here goes again, why not :

Rehearsal setup: full-size Dyne + 4x12

Gig setup: smaller Dyne + 2x12

 

[spawnofthesith]

Obviously a biased opinion, but I say give it a go! Worst that can happen is you don't like it and move it on. For me, it's been my "end the search" amp for a long time now. Anything else I try, I always like the Dyne better. And in the smaller head version, it's an incredible amount of tone and power in a pretty manageable size/weight. (I have both a small head and the regular big one.)

I've posted this before, but here goes again, why not :

Rehearsal setup: full-size Dyne + 4x12

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Gig setup: smaller Dyne + 2x12

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Damn!! Didn't realize you had two those are both glorious

Well yall have me fairly convinced... this holiday weekend is a no go for getting down to where the amp is but if available next week I think I might jump...

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

To give some closure to the OP, my FB messages with the dude indicate that the item has been sold, so you can all rest easy knowing that SOMEBODY managed to make their way into the wilderness to score a $300 electra dyne!

 

[spawnofthesith]

To give some closure to the OP, my FB messages with the dude indicate that the item has been sold, so you can all rest easy knowing that SOMEBODY managed to make their way into the wilderness to score a $300 electra dyne!

Hopefully didnt make their way into the wilderness to never be heard from again



Sorry for the thread hijack!

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Hopefully didnt make their way into the wilderness to never be heard from again



Sorry for the thread hijack!

No worries! We know this was all a ruse on your end. "If I post a super cheap electra dyne for sale, then someone will post about it on TGF, and I can say that the TGF thread was the inspiration for my e-dyne gas. Oh look!! My plan is panning out! IT'S A SIGN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

[TubeStack]

Damn!! Didn't realize you had two those are both glorious

Yes, I was super happy to find the smaller one especially, they're very rare, especially up here in Canada.

I just need the combo to complete the set.

 

[TubeStack]

And just for fun, here's the list of amps I've bought and returned/sold in favour my Dyne:

Mark V head
Triple Crown 50
Badlander 100
Fillmore 100 head

... and before the Dyne, leading up to it:

Stiletto Deuce head
Royal Atlantic 2x12 combo