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[2dor]

Srsly, if this was a 50 watter; it would be on my radar INSTANTLY.

Same here

 

[GTR37]

Yeah BAD is spreading their dev work across the family. Probably the same app as the IRX just retooled for the SYN20.

I’d guess this year there will be a couple IRX variants from their other brands, and probably another Astro-like head or two from them.

Now that I think about it yep
The presence and thump are probably in the editor
They may even have the bright switches in there
I makes sense actually and does allow saving some real estate on the front panel

 

[Devin]

I'd been predicting they'd do one of those. Dope af

 

[Baba]

#nopresence

 

[JiveTurkey]

#nopresence

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It's also another 20 watt turd.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Now that I think about it yep
The presence and thump are probably in the editor
They may even have the bright switches in there
I makes sense actually and does allow saving some real estate on the front panel

No it doesn't -- the added cost of putting in digitally controlled potentiometers that require connection to an app would be ridiculously higher than just putting two more regular ol' pots on the face of the unit.

 

[laxu]

20 watts. So too loud if pushed at home without any power amp oomph and not loud enough for a gig.

Aren't most Synergy modules preamp gain based designs? And even the Plexi, Blackface etc are most likely designed around a clean poweramp and to just sound like the expected amps.

I would assume that Synergy would also add IR capability to their 50W head eventually.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Aren't most Synergy modules preamp gain based designs? And even the Plexi, Blackface etc are most likely designed around a clean poweramp and to just sound like the expected amps.

I would assume that Synergy would also add IR capability to their 50W head eventually.

Sure. But I still need that power if I want to gig it.

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

Aren't most Synergy modules preamp gain based designs? And even the Plexi, Blackface etc are most likely designed around a clean poweramp and to just sound like the expected amps.

I would assume that Synergy would also add IR capability to their 50W head eventually.

That's exactly why 20 watts is concerning.

 

[GTR37]

No it doesn't -- the added cost of putting in digitally controlled potentiometers that require connection to an app would be ridiculously higher than just putting two more regular ol' pots on the face of the unit.

It depends on the space throwing a few extra pots on is not as easy as it seems depending on how busy the inside is
The App on the other hand
They have successfully done
And tested with the IRX pedal and then the Astro amp
For the record I agree depth and pres knobs would be great and my preference but they obviously have reasons for omitting

 

[JiveTurkey]

That's exactly why 20 watts is concerning.

Clean poweramp

 

[GTR37]

Sure. But I still need that power if I want to gig it.

I don’t know the Astro is pretty decent sounding
If they are using the JJ 6v6s tubes those are not your dads Fender 6v6
They are more in line w a 6l6 and also could punch out much higher than 20 watt

 

[Badonkey Kong]

I guess the idea with 20 watts is that it's extremely portable and if you need more just plug it in to the PA.

We'll see how it sounds. Not exactly what I was hoping for but as mentioned, some of the 20 watt Friedman's sound great.

 

[Baba]

As much as I joke, I totally use the presence knob, and I get the "keeping up with my band" thing.

Lucky for me, my drummer is on the quieter side, so, my paltry 40 watts is too much, most of the time, and even on the 5 watt setting, my master volume is at 11:00 max when we gig. 20 watts is my sweet spot. 40 for the larger rooms with big wedges.

 

[JiveTurkey]

For me; I like to run things on higher wattage settings with volume lower (if needed) vs. lower wattage settings with the volume higher. Not sure if I have that right but that's how I do it \m/

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

It depends on the space throwing a few extra pots on is not as easy as it seems depending on how busy the inside is
The App on the other hand
They have successfully done
And tested with the IRX pedal and then the Astro amp
For the record I agree depth and pres knobs would be great and my preference but they obviously have reasons for omitting

No. The app has a digital model of a poweramp, and includes presence and depth parameters for that digital model. What you are talking about here is going to be like a Chase Bliss pedal, or the Suhr analog delay pedal (or that Walrus analog delay pedal) where the circuitry is analog (because this is an actual tube power amp, not a model of one) and includes in it some sort of variable resistor whose value is controlled by a microprocessor. Which, as the price of Chase Bliss and the digitally-controlled analog pedals shows, is not a cheap thing to implement.

 

[Whizzinby]

I’m interested to see if they eventually add the clean channel and IR capabilities to the 2-module 50w head.

This 20IR ticks a lot of boxes in theory, but it would have been cooler to have the 30’s big boy power section and controls.

Curious what the pricing will be.

 

[2dor]

I’m interested to see if they eventually add the clean channel and IR capabilities to the 2-module 50w head.

This 20IR ticks a lot of boxes in theory, but it would have been cooler to have the 30’s big boy power section and controls.

Curious what the pricing will be.

The 30's power section fells surprisingly anemic tbh

 

[Whizzinby]

The 30's power section fells surprisingly anemic tbh

I always assumed that was just a 30w version of the Syn5050 power amp, being 6L6 and all.

Curious if this 20w version is the same 6V6 power section as the Astro.

 

[guit1@69]

Who said it’s 6v6’s? I bet it’s el84’s