What Do You Think About "Shredding"?

[Stone]

I remember the first time I even heard the term applied to something besides cheese.. it was used to describe Ed's playing style.

Nowadays, I really don't think EVH was a "shredder" by today's definition.

I think Ed was just a fast, accurate, rock guitar player.

EVH revolutionized everything
He was also a riff master, something lots of folks overlook, tight and always in the pocket

 

[Frodebro]

Love Styx especially the earlier stuff, was my first rock concert

Ironically, it was a friend’s older brother who introduced me to Styx through Kilroy Was Here, which led me through their back catalog. The earlier stuff was much more to my liking (the Wooden Nickel albums), but I also loved the Shaw era stuff from the seventies. I was in the ski club in high school, and Equinox was almost always in my Walkman on the slopes.

 

[Aelred]

My two favorite bands in high school were Judas Priest and Styx. Somebody please help me to understand this.

Weren't they both Satanic Backmasking devotees?

 

[Frodebro]

Weren't they both Satanic Backmasking devotees?

Fuck I miss the eighties. Kids these days just don’t appreciate a good backwards satanic message.

 

[PLX]

EVH revolutionized everything
He was also a riff master, something lots of folks overlook, tight and always in the pocket

There's a guy I used to talk guitar with from the old MetroAmp forum.. goes by "garbeaj".

His contention was that many VH licks were simply Clapton licks played at 2x speed.

 

[Stone]

There's a guy I used to talk guitar with from the old MetroAmp forum.. goes by "garbeaj".

His contention was that many VH licks were simply Clapton licks played at 2x speed.

hmmm doubt it I don't see any Claptpton in any EVH, although I do know he was influenced by him

 

[FuzzyAce]

I’m glad they opened so you could leave before a Dave Matthews came on.

As much as I appreciate the musicality/musicianship, DMB was never my thing either.

 

[PLX]

hmmm doubt it I don't see any Claptpton in any EVH, although I do know he was influenced by him

Same here.

Sounded like a really hokey idea to me.. at first.

Then he proved it in a Youtube video he did a while back.

 

[Frodebro]

hmmm doubt it I don't see any Claptpton in any EVH, although I do know he was influenced by him

Anybody who has plugged a Les Paul into a Marshall and dimed it has a little Clapton in their musical DNA.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Same here.

Sounded like a really hokey idea to me.. at first.

Then he proved it in a Youtube video he did a while back.

 

[makeitstop]

I like shredding. Can't do it very well, but I enjoy a good fast solo. Points plus for melodicism.

 

[PLX]

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

DMB is actually a band I’ve wanted to listen to more but never do. Carter Beauford is worth the listen alone, but Dave’s got some interesting guitar parts I certainly never would have came up with in a million years.

In a thread where we are arguing the merits of Ratt in the context of shred that serves the music…if you didn’t see those early small venue DMB shows in VA, you missed out on some great drum, sax, and fiddle shredding in the context of some pretty great songs with a whole bunch of college kids, equal parts men and women, havinga great time. Obnoxious entitled college kids maybe, but pretentious is the last word I would use to describe those shows.

 

[jaxadam]

Shredding is where it’s at.

DMB is actually a band I’ve wanted to listen to more but never do. Carter Beauford is worth the listen alone, but Dave’s got some interesting guitar parts I certainly never would have came up with in a million years.

Check out the Dave Matthews/Tim Reynolds Live at Luther College album.

 

[Rock Chalk]

Gotta say, even back in the day, never thought of George Lynch, Bill Leverty, Mark Kendall, Frank Hannon, Mick Mars, Warren DeMartini, Reb Beach, Steve Vai etc. as posers.........

 

[jaxadam]

In a thread where we are arguing the merits of Ratt in the context of shred that serves the music…if you didn’t see those early small venue DMB shows in VA, you missed out on some great drum, sax, and fiddle shredding in the context of some pretty great songs with a whole bunch of college kids, equal parts men and women, havinga great time. Obnoxious entitled college kids maybe, but pretentious is the last word I would use to describe those shows.

I remember when DMB could barely get 50 people in the door at The Flood Zone in Shockoe Bottom.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Shredding is where it’s at.



Check out the Dave Matthews/Tim Reynolds Live at Luther College album.

I have that double cd album somewhere. There's some good music on there but I can only take so much of his singing after a while. I tried though.

 

[FuzzyAce]

Yeah, but I sped up Tears in Heaven x2 and don't hear it.

 

[PLX]

Yeah, but I sped up Tears in Heaven x2 and don't hear it.

I never "heard" EC in VH's playing before.. but I think Allen makes a good point.

 

[Aelred]

I have no idea who this DMB mob are apart from online. Double Platinum albums weren't released or didn't chart in Australia and I don't think they ever toured.