What Do You Think About "Shredding"?

[PLX]

I’m glad they opened so you could leave before a Dave Matthews came on.

 

[HomespunEffects]

I never considered Ratt a hair band, but rather one of many established bands that adopted the look when it became the big thing in around 1986 or so. Hell, even Priest adopted the look during the Turbo era, but they were in no way a hair band.

To me, the actual hair bands were the ones that were signed in the record industry frenzy after Motley Crue blew up with Home Sweet Home. That song and video defined the formula that became hair metal- big hair, makeup, spandex, and the power ballad to attract females to the band. We used to refer to them as Poser Bands.

I see where you’re coming from.

 

[Frodebro]

I’m glad they opened so you could leave before a Dave Matthews came on.

Credit where due, the DMB was tight as fuck and could tear it up, but putting Matthews in front made it music for pretentious college students.

 

[duzie]

I never considered Ratt a hair band, but rather one of many established bands that adopted the look when it became the big thing in around 1986 or so. Hell, even Priest adopted the look during the Turbo era, but they were in no way a hair band.

To me, the actual hair bands were the ones that were signed in the record industry frenzy after Motley Crue blew up with Home Sweet Home. That song and video defined the formula that became hair metal- big hair, makeup, spandex, and the power ballad to attract females to the band. We used to refer to them as Poser Bands.

Somehow many many years later I gained an appreciation for the “Poser” bands.
At the time of their rise I also wasn’t a fan.

 

[duzie]

Credit where due, the DMB was tight as fuck and could tear it up, but putting Matthews in front made it music for pretentious college students.

R.E.M. comes to mind as pretentious college music

 

[Aelred]

When I think about shredding at all I wish I could do it. Maybe my ESP LTD can in the right hands, but I doubt it for my Strat, Tele or Reverend and especially my old hands and eyes.

What's the instrument of choice? Solar, Ibanez, Jackson, ESP, Schecter...? 7-string?

Me, I think Tommy Emmanuel is pretty fast around his acoustic fretboard, but I do appreciate Vai, Eddie, Yngwie and so on for that style.

 

[PLX]

Me, I think Tommy Emmanuel is pretty fast around his acoustic fretboard, but I do appreciate Vai, Eddie, Yngwie and so on for that style.

I remember the first time I even heard the term applied to something besides cheese.. it was used to describe Ed's playing style.

Nowadays, I really don't think EVH was a "shredder" by today's definition.

I think Ed was just a fast, accurate, rock guitar player.

 

[DrewJD82]

DMB is actually a band I’ve wanted to listen to more but never do. Carter Beauford is worth the listen alone, but Dave’s got some interesting guitar parts I certainly never would have came up with in a million years.

 

[Frodebro]

Somehow many many years later I gained an appreciation for the “Poser” bands.
At the time of their rise I also wasn’t a fan.

I’m the same way, as well as liking a lot of the eighties pop music that I avoided like the plague back in the day. Duran Duran was actually a great band, and I love them now but no way would I give them a fair shake in my metalhead youth.

 

[Aelred]

I remember the first time I even heard the term applied to something besides cheese.. it was used to describe Ed's playing style.

Nowadays, I really don't think EVH was a "shredder" by today's definition.

I think Ed was just a fast, accurate, rock guitar player.

Yeah, I was listening to the Scorpions and Roth in the mid 70's, then Eddie, then Alcatraz...

Of course, Purple and Zep were considered Heavy Metal in the 70's, so there's that too. It all gets re-defined as time passes.

 

[PLX]

Yeah, I was listening to the Scorpions and Roth in the mid 70's, then Eddie, then Alcatraz...

Of course, Purple and Zep were considered Heavy Metal in the 70's, so there's that too. It all gets re-defined as time passes.

Yeah, I think Gene Simmons coined the term during an interview back in the mid-late 70's (heavy metal), and VH was referred to as "heavy metal" in '78.

But today you'd get laughed at for calling Van Halen or Kiss heavy metal.

 

[Frodebro]

Yeah, I think Gene Simmons coined the term during an interview back in the mid-late 70's (heavy metal), and VH was referred to as "heavy metal" in '78.

But today you'd get laughed at for calling Van Halen or Kiss heavy metal.

Sabbath was obviously the beginning of Metal, I would put Purple as straddling the line between hard rock and prog. Early Scorps and Priest leaned more toward prog as well, but for some reason you don’t see much discussion about prog when tracing the history of Metal.

 

[DrewJD82]

I remember discovering Pantera for the first time in ‘97 and was told I didn’t know what real metal was.

 

[Frodebro]

I remember discovering Pantera for the first time in ‘97 and was told I didn’t know what real metal was.

I was 15 when Ride The Lightning was released, and never really got into the whole thrash/speed metal thing. It was just a bit too aggressive for me. But it was definitely metal. Same with Pantera down the road- not my thing, but definitely metal.

 

[Aelred]

The first issue of Kerrang! magazine was a one-off special in 1981 with Angus Young on the cover. I was living in England at the time, when Venom, Discharge etc were not known at all but getting ready to blow up the Metal scene as it was, along with NWOBHM and Glam/Hair metal in the USA.

In the mid-70's, Kiss and Alice Cooper were considered Heavy Metal, or at least nearby.

 

[duzie]

Back in ‘78 I thought this was shredding

 

[norminal]

DMB is actually a band I’ve wanted to listen to more but never do. Carter Beauford is worth the listen alone, but Dave’s got some interesting guitar parts I certainly never would have came up with in a million years.

I still use the opening riff of “Satellite” to warm up, which according to Dave, was what riff was originally used for.

 

[Stone]

I love shred just like I love anything musical that speaks to me, some shred is meh as is some slow 3 chord lame songs
Music first if I t moves me and i like it then no complaints

 

[Frodebro]

I love shred just like I love anything musical that speaks to me, some shred is meh as is some slow 3 chord lame songs
Music first if I t moves me and i like it then no complaints

Absolutely. I never succumbed to the tribalism of embracing one band/genre while openly shitting on others. My two favorite bands in high school were Judas Priest and Styx. Somebody please help me to understand this.

 

[Stone]

Absolutely. I never succumbed to the tribalism of embracing one band/genre while openly shitting on others. My two favorite bands in high school were Judas Priest and Styx. Somebody please help me to understand this.

Love Styx especially the earlier stuff, was my first rock concert