What are we watching now?

[norminal]

Time to re-up on my anxiety meds.

 

[Chocol8]

Gave Rings Of Crap a chance in Season 1, couldn't believe what drek that was, totally skipped watching Season 2

If you couldn't believe how bad season 1 was, Season 2 would totally blow your mind.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Some of you would probably really enjoy Dean Delray's podcast, he's a comedian who was trying to make it as a musician before getting into comedy and the dude has some of the best interviews I've ever heard. He's got a good amount of gear knowledge across all the instruments and he's not afraid to get into details despite not being a podcast for musicians. Great list of guests and he asks some great questions due to his musical background and depth of knowledge on bands.

I still gotta catch up on this one-



Hahahhaha, it wasn't until you said it, @JiveTurkey, but I started watching a Garza podcast a few weeks ago, I think the Adam D episode where he actually is a huge Adam D fan and was falling over himself more than usual, it just highlighted everything you said and magnified it doublefold. Now I can't unhear it in every episode.

I've tried a number of times and just cannot do it! Dude seems super nice but not someone I can listen to.

 

[Jazz Padd]

Heartwarming story about two troubled people, a Black Woman from Ohio and a Blackfoot Indian in Montana, finding themselves and one another. The Mrs. picked it and I / we enjoyed it.

 

[laxu]

Whilst agreeing, I don't think it goes far enough. Many seem to actively despise the source material and audience which they are forced to work with. The companies that paid all that money for LotR and Star Wars are going to make something using the brand with whatever Directors, Producers, Actors etc that money can buy - even if the "creatives" don't like it much. Rene Zegler did not seem to like the role and character of Snow White. Peter Dinklage prevented any other "dwarves" from getting a rare job with one snobby, drunken comment on air.

Peter Jackson and almost the entire nation of New Zealand worked on a labour of love for years, appreciating the opportunity they had to make a timeless classic for the ages by adapting JRR Tolkein as best they could. But Simon Tolkein hated his grandpa's works and was miffed that they stuck as faithfuilly as they did to the source material. It wasn't ruined prior to that thanks to Christopher Tolkein.

People who don't like the source material, genre or audience making big budget "entertainment" seems to me to be a recipe for failure, artistically and commencially. The creatives don't want to make it and the audience don't want to watch it. Funny, that.

Yet we'll get season 3 The L:ast of Us and Rings of Power, the next Superhero disaster - Ironheart and/or Superman, Mandallorian and Grogu etc anyway. Repeated failure of monumental proportions never seems to dissuade them from their corporate-approved methods of "creation".

Absolutely. The Witcher TV series developers hated the source material so much they changed a lot, made a terrible spinoff series and eventually caused Henry Cavill, who loved the source material, to quit.

I'm reading the books atm and I just don't understand how you can even manage to mess an adaptation so badly. The source material should be pretty straightforward to adapt. You could do "monster of the week", you could skip some of the stories to condense it.

Same thing with e.g Altered Carbon. For season 2 they smashed two entire books together, and added a lot of drama that does not exist in the books. The books are already written like action movies. They could have just skipped the 2nd book entirely because it's a self-contained story, and do the 3rd one as written.

Game of Thrones got increasingly worse as its developers ran out of source material, because GRRM apparently wants to do everything but continue writing his magnum opus.

Somehow Hollywood constantly forgets, that their hit movie and TV series often came from something where they let its makers create a labor of love, rather than something designed in board rooms with focus groups and committees. Nobody wants to take any risks that could spawn the next great thing, so instead we have this flood of mediocrity.

 

[la szum]

Yeah, I was really thinking about the cost: all that money and it looked so cheap. The parts I bothered with, of course. I needed a heavy hand on the fast-forward to get through the Harfoot stuff.

I expect season 3 to be hilariously awful. Hate-watching has become it's own thing since Game of Thrones seasons 7 & 8. Once the GRRM material was exhausted, they had nothing but nonsnense.

Or we are an increasingly spoiled and entitled population of passive viewers who don't realize Great Art
is hard to virtually impossible to pull off.

Seriously.



The sheer volume of stuff being churned out pretty much demands that most of it is going to be awful
and 98% regurgitated themes and topics.

Not pointing fingers.... just speaking in overarching generalizations.

 

[mbenigni]

“The Eternaut” on Netflix. AKA low rent Last of Us, AKA The Lastivus for the Rastivus. Literally watching snow fall in 45 minute doses. Occasional breaks for a cliche about mob mentality or whatever.

I think it’s a miniseries. I still don’t expect to make it. :/

 

[norminal]

 

[Aelred]

Absolutely. The Witcher TV series developers hated the source material so much they changed a lot, made a terrible spinoff series and eventually caused Henry Cavill, who loved the source material, to quit.

Tangent: And the company that made The Witcher 3 game has decided to violate canon etc for The Witcher 4 (Ciri cannot be a Wiitcher!) - so the creators left and have formed their own new company to make the games they want.

GRRM has admitted that he has already killed off a character essential to the ending he originally planned.

Curiously, some of the Sci Fi and Fantasy novels I’ve tried to read in recent years seems to be written more like a script with adaptation in mind. Kind of

Chapter x: scene setting -> dialog/action -> plot point -> cut to next Chapter

One of the reason comics were once considered good spource material was that they were essenitally story-boarded for the visuals as well as dialog. So simple - and so they choose to adapt unpopular characters like Ironheart, Captain Falcon, Ms Marvel etc. Star Wars had the entire EU to plunder and threw it away for Baby Yoda.

And I forgot about The Witcher: Blood Origin on Netflix. Apparantly they had a movie by the acclaimed Russo Brothers, The Electiric State, that cost $320 million to make and bombed so badly no one even noticed it existed to hate-watch it!

 

[Aelred]

Or we are an increasingly spoiled and entitled population of passive viewers who don't realize Great Art
is hard to virtually impossible to pull off.

Seriously.



The sheer volume of stuff being churned out pretty much demands that most of it is going to be awful
and 98% regurgitated themes and topics.

Not pointing fingers.... just speaking in overarching generalizations.

The spin merchants think they are entitled to my money and adoration as a lover of Tolkien in my youth if they put Lord of the Rings in the title, regardless of actual content.

LotR is a very strange book written by an old English eccentric obsessed with ancient European languages – “famous” as a Beowulf scholar – to become such a global cultural phenomenon. Which seemed to baffle and peeve the old prof somewhat, who didn’t seem interested in the slightest in the commercial potential of prequels, sequels or movies. He wasn’t trying to create a mass-market cultural phenomenon bringing in mega-bucks to spend on hookers and blow, or feed his ego.

Attempting to copy that or use it as a template for new material or writers is doomed to fail. Especially in modern Hollywood. How much content is being created using purchased IP “brands” that cost millions to fail badly vs content created by, say, Joe Rogan in a small studio talking – or old content the studios wish to use to flog their new, reimagined versions that cost millions to fail?

 

[spawnofthesith]

I can’t believe there hasn’t been an Elder Scrolls show yet



Fallouts cool and all (no idea about the show, haven’t watched it) but I wouldn’t consider it the leading Bethesda game to do a televised franchise on

 

[Aelred]

Todd Howard said it was too weird and player-driven to be a TV show. But Minecraft the Movie (?!?) made a fortune.

Why on earth Cate Blanchett agreed to be in Borderlands is anyone's guess.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Todd Howard said it was too weird and player-driven to be a TV show. But Minecraft the Movie (?!?) made a fortune.

Why on earth Cate Blanchett agreed to be in Borderlands is anyone's guess.

I know a lot of people hate Seth Rogan ( I don’t, his stoner comedies were a big part of my teenager-hood)

But the long arc of the “kool aid man” movie In His Apple TV show has kept me at least chorttling through the series

 

[JiveTurkey]

I know a lot of people hate Seth Rogan ( I don’t, his stoner comedies were a big part of my teenager-hood)

But the long arc of the “kool aid man” movie In His Apple TV show has kept me at least chorttling through the series

I think he's in some good stuff. Absolutely. I think when he got roped into a bit of "telling America what they should be doing" aka I'm terminally online and should really stop paying attention to this crap; that's when he went sideways in my mind

We rewatched Observe and Report here a few months back and that is inappropriate (and hilarious) AF!

Hung out with my sons last night and the one told me I need to watch the Tom Segura Steven Segall and Garth Brooks episodes

 

[JiveTurkey]

Finished up At Close Range last night. Never watched it for no real reason? EXCELLENT movie. Every performance was great. Walken at one of his many peaks. Sean Penn was stellar as well. What a great flick \m/

 

[Baba]

Just finished watching the movie 65. It's been slightly on my radar since it came out.

Was it amazing? No. Was it a waste of 1.5 hours, while I should be working? No.

I'll tell you what, the premise is right up my alley.