Valeton GP-5

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Can you explain the meaning of the numbers to me? Is the Valeton and Hotone 75% as accurate as the NAM player and Dimehead?

It's how well they perform in a null test vs the real thing... measured in Lufs (Loudness Units Relative to Full Scale)
So the quieter the result, the smaller the difference to the real thing.
So for example, the NAM model when loaded into the plugin (or the dimehead nam player) is approximately -40lufs, which to the human ear is very close, basically imperceivable.

The other results in the null test are louder, and therefore less accurate, for example -30lufs is louder than -40lufs.

Those less accurate results would certainly be easier to perceive a difference when comparing by ear.
Think 'tonex vs nam' videos where people do typically notice that there's a difference.

The others are all still useful enough, and to most people's ears 'it will do', but if you are going to choose something based on accuracy and sound quality - you'd want to use something that is natively running NAM models in order to get to around the -40lufs bench mark, or else it's not going to sound quite so good.

 

[laxu]

Sounds pretty decent to me for what it is. I'd honestly rather have this than a Tonex One. Under 100 € in the UK.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

For anyone who might be looking into one of these:

According to Leo you need to use Full Rig (amp+cab) nam models, or you'll need a dedicated Cab sim pedal to go after if you prefer using amp head only (DI) captures with this one. So, it's just the same as the way it works with the Pocket Master.

 

[laxu]

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For anyone who might be looking into one of these:

According to Leo you need to use Full Rig (amp+cab) nam models, or you'll need a dedicated Cab sim pedal to go after if you prefer using amp head only (DI) captures with this one. So, it's just the same as the way it works with the Pocket Master.

That's a shame, greatly limits what you can do with the captures.

 

[norminal]

That's a shame, greatly limits what you can do with the captures.

Is there a way to export a NAM capture with an IR into one file from the plugin so you could load it into this?

 

[laxu]

Is there a way to export a NAM capture with an IR into one file from the plugin so you could load it into this?

Nope, I think you'd have to make a new capture to do that.

 

[Lysander]

Wow, it can be USB-C powered, has 2-in/2-out USB audio interface and BT wireless audio playback/recording

Honestly, $80 is a ridiculous price for this thing - i've had tuners costing more than that. And it sounds great, too, which is not surprising as Valeton is Hotone's second brand, so you get all the Ampero modelling goodies.

I'll probably end up snatching one just to keep in my gigbag as a forever backup.

 

[Lysander]

Anybody in the mood for a null test?

Yikes. That intro scores a 97/100 in the AI-Cringe-o-Meter!

 

[norminal]

Yikes. That intro scores a 97/100 in the AI-Cringe-o-Meter!

I forgot to mention that in my post. Definitely cringe! Leo seems like a really cool dude though. I’d love to see him stop by TGF.

 

[norminal]

Honestly, $80 is a ridiculous price for this thing - i've had tuners costing more than that. And it sounds great, too, which is not surprising as Valeton is Hotone's second brand, so you get all the Ampero modelling goodies.

I keep my Stomp in my bag for emergencies, which thankfully has never been used in practice, but I’d totally replace the Stomp for a backup with this thing. Capture my FM3 tones via NAM and it’d be the perfect backup.

 

[signalpath]

MIDI support

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...-gp-5-nam-and-ir-loader.2620915/post-40980403

I’m thinking I’ll try one of these in the loop of the Tone King pedal - bypass the TKI and still have access to reverb/tremolo and on board IRs to the XLR and headphone outs if needed.

 

[norminal]

MIDI support

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/i...-gp-5-nam-and-ir-loader.2620915/post-40980403

I’m thinking I’ll try one of these in the loop of the Tone King pedal - bypass the TKI and still have access to reverb/tremolo and on board IRs to the XLR and headphone outs if needed.

Wow! I wonder why Leo stated that it didn’t have it. Maybe it’s listed but not implemented?

 

[laxu]

Wow! I wonder why Leo stated that it didn’t have it. Maybe it’s listed but not implemented?

Might be just not having a manual? Or pre-release fw on Leo's model?

The MIDI implementation is very similar to Hotone Ampero 2. You basically can turn on/off different slots of fx, in the GP-5 those are just more fixed than on an Ampero 2.

It's ok but not great as e.g individual parameter control has to be done via expression instead.

I really hope the devs can add support for capture + IR in a firmware update. That would make this a much better unit than Tonex One, even if Tonex has a slight advantage in capture quality.

 

[norminal]

Might be just not having a manual? Or pre-release fw on Leo's model?

The MIDI implementation is very similar to Hotone Ampero 2. You basically can turn on/off different slots of fx, in the GP-5 those are just more fixed than on an Ampero 2.

It's ok but not great as e.g individual parameter control has to be done via expression instead.

That could be the case. Hasn’t he had that unit for quite a while?

 

[signalpath]

That could be the case. Hasn’t he had that unit for quite a while?

TOP midi reference is a translation from the Chinese manual. The english manual has a link but as of this moment it doesn’t work. I misspoke. The english manual does download. The link is just incredibly slow and flaky.

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

I’m intrigued by this pedal but the no IR when running a capture is a let down. Hypothetically, creating a new NAM capture that’s running through an amp into an IR should work OK, or does that mess things up?

And then I’m wondering how well it would take dirt pedals and/or an amp preamp as well.

 

[laxu]

Hypothetically, creating a new NAM capture that’s running through an amp into an IR should work OK, or does that mess things up?

That should be fine. Just a pain in the ass compared to being able to set up the cab sim separately.

 

[Progressive_disclosure]

That should be fine. Just a pain in the ass compared to being able to set up the cab sim separately.

Definitely a PITA! Plus side is less decision fatigue when it comes to which IR to use. I’d then set it up with an IR to somewhat match the cab I’m using the real amp with. For anyone just wanting good captures this severely limits the utility.

 

[timbuck3]

“Ever imagined running an entire gig with just one pedal?” Valeton’s $80 GP-5 looks to take the TONEX One’s crown – and makes a serious play to become the all-in-one mini rig solution to beat

Packed with over 100 effects and a healthy bank of presets, the NAM loading pedal offers stiff competition to 2024’s best-selling mini modeler

www.guitarworld.com

 

[Frankencat]

So when is this available in the US? It seems like a no brainer gig bag backup device.