UA Lion '68

ejecta said:
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Sounds very close, which again proves that most of any "magic" people hear in the UA pedals is that they just like how UA cab sims sound, or maybe the room mic stuff.

On the flipside, the all tube preamp of the IRX seems like a bit of a nothing-burger really, when the fully digital solution can sound the same at about half the size.

Ever since getting the BluGuitar Amp 1 ME, I've been pretty convinced that digital or even analog solid-state can replicate the preamp of a tube amp very well, so to me these "tube preamp + IRs" or "tube preamp + SS poweramp" pedal size things don't have a lot of appeal.
 
laxu said:
Sounds very close, which again proves that most of any "magic" people hear in the UA pedals is that they just like how UA cab sims sound, or maybe the room mic stuff.

On the flipside, the all tube preamp of the IRX seems like a bit of a nothing-burger really, when the fully digital solution can sound the same at about half the size.

Ever since getting the BluGuitar Amp 1 ME, I've been pretty convinced that digital or even analog solid-state can replicate the preamp of a tube amp very well, so to me these "tube preamp + IRs" or "tube preamp + SS poweramp" pedal size things don't have a lot of appeal.
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I definitely agree with the UA cabs point for those who like UA stuff. I really like the OX Stomp I own. Best purchase I’ve made for my loaded down amps in a long time. At least I know it can sound as good as the Friedman but I was only mildly impressed with that so I’ll wait and see for the local store to get time with the Lion.
 
ejecta said:
I definitely agree with the UA cabs point for those who like UA stuff. I really like the OX Stomp I own. Best purchase I’ve made for my loaded down amps in a long time. At least I know it can sound as good as the Friedman but I was only mildly impressed with that so I’ll wait and see for the local store to get time with the Lion.
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Im one of those. That said the lion is my fave couple of digi Plexis Ive played.
 
public enemy flava flav GIF


Don’t believe the hype….

 
ejecta said:
public enemy flava flav GIF


Don’t believe the hype….

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I miss some features too. But IMO it does feel more like a tube amp compared to every other modeler I've tried, and that ultimately the one feature I really care about.

If I made a video of two cars going through a track, both apparently going about same speed, following the same driveline... It says very little about the experience of actually driving them. That's where I stand about these A/B audio tests. Not useless, no, but it just doesn't show the whole picture.
 
Tito83 said:
I miss some features too. But IMO it does feel more like a tube amp compared to every other modeler I've tried, and that ultimately the one feature I really care about.

If I made a video of two cars going through a track, both apparently going about same speed, following the same driveline... It says very little about the experience of actually driving them. That's where I stand about these A/B audio tests. Not useless, no, but it just doesn't show the whole picture.
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agreed. Lion has one great feature: bloody fingers. Because you can't stop playing ...
 
Tito83 said:
I miss some features too. But IMO it does feel more like a tube amp compared to every other modeler I've tried, and that ultimately the one feature I really care about.

If I made a video of two cars going through a track, both apparently going about same speed, following the same driveline... It says very little about the experience of actually driving them. That's where I stand about these A/B audio tests. Not useless, no, but it just doesn't show the whole picture.
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Very cool. Mine should be here Friday. With amps tones live, for my main gig, I just use one amp and some pedals. I don’t need loads of amps, midi, etc for that so I don’t miss the feature some complain about but I see why some don’t understand why they aren’t there. That said if the tone and feel is there for me it’s a win regardless if it doesn’t have every feature I’d want.
 
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ejecta said:
That dude is a great player and I thought his comments with good and not so good were very even handed. Also yes his live tones were really good.
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big Lion fanboy here, but gotta admit the real amp guy on stage had a nicer cutting tone in comparison.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
seems like UA have trademarked some pedals under the name of ANTI and ANTI 1992

trademarks.justia.com

ANTI 1992 Trademark Application of Universal Audio, Inc. - Serial Number 98466801 :: Justia Trademarks

Guitar effects pedals; downloadable computer software programs, downloadable computer applications and downloadable software plug-ins for emulating and producing electronic musical instrument and instrument amplifier sounds; downloadable computer software programs, downloadable computer...
trademarks.justia.com trademarks.justia.com
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1992 must have been the year when pedal manufacturers began implementing midi into products.
 
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