TwoNotes GENOME!!!
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All good now! 
To my surprise, it runs really smoothly, even on my 10 year old laptop (Acer Aspire, upgraded to 16 GB RAM and SSD.
Loaded a random Fender Twin NAM profile that I found online, and as long as I leave the oversampling turned off, Genome behaves well, without any noticeable latency whatsoever.
Nice work!
That said, the "Twin Tracker" is pretty cool.
To my surprise, it runs really smoothly, even on my 10 year old laptop (Acer Aspire, upgraded to 16 GB RAM and SSD.
Loaded a random Fender Twin NAM profile that I found online, and as long as I leave the oversampling turned off, Genome behaves well, without any noticeable latency whatsoever.
Nice work!
That said, the "Twin Tracker" is pretty cool.
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Seems they're slowly abandoning their WOS plugin in favour of this. So in case you didn't buy it (*check*), you might be out of luck when moving to a new computer.
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Oh drats - just had a look, the thing won't run on my vintage computer. Thank you very much, Apple!
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How "vintage" spec are we talking?
I bought my Windows laptop in 2014, and upgraded RAM/SSD a couple years ago.
Fwiw, I'm running Win 8.1 and a cheap basic version of Cubase 5, along with an old Scarlett 2i4.
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If Apple no longer allows installing a current OS version on it, there's a workaround called OpenCore that afaik allows you to install newer MacOS versions. https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/MODELS.html
So you might be able to install at least MacOS Monterey. Obviously backup everything first!
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I'm not able to register. I am able log in with my name and password, but cannot go further. I also attempted the offline method. It will not except the GENOME_License.ltorp file (grayed out).
Bummer.
Bummer.
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2010 Mac Pro.
Yeah, but that's quite some fooling around (with further actions required should you want to update again). Wanted to go that route first but decided to stick with Mojave, which is allowing me to do some things not possible with newer macOS versions anymore (such as running Battery 3 and some 32bit apps).
I will be buying a new Macbook (Air, as it seems) somewhen this year anyway, so that's no drama.
In general, Apples tactics suck, though. Given its performance, this machine would possibly be good for another 10 years, but as I'm using it as an allround computer (hence surfing the web and what not) and as I'm always interested in new things, it will have to retire once all transfers are done (or become a Linux box).
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Yeah and with the non-upgradeability of most of their machines nowadays, you generally want to pick the highest spec you can justify paying for. I'm lucky that I get my Macbook Pro from work and can use it however I want, so it's very much decked out.
I'd definitely look at refurbished/on sale M2 Macbook Pros over the Air though. They are just better everything.
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Not sure. They're basically very similar machines from all I know (I don't need the extra update options and somewhat better GFX performance of the Pro, I'm also fine with the somewhat shorter battery life of the Air) and I really, really like the idea of having no fans at all. A computer with zero moving parts inside is quite something in my book.
Anyhow, I will be looking at the refurbished ones anyway. Just that I don't like the idea of not knowing about charging cycles and SSD usage before you have it in your hands.
Fwiw, given all tests (including some I set up on my MP myself), even the M1 Macbook Airs will smoke my MP in terms of singlecore performance and come in somewhat equally in multithreading tests - which is just astounding, given that the MP is a 12core/24thread machine, which is still able to pull off pretty much everything I throw at it in terms of multithreading (you really only notice its age on the singlethreaded "live" cores).
So, that's at least something I'll be able to enjoy. I also got my money's worth out of this machine (bought it 2nd hand in 2013 or so), but Apple still sucks ass - especially as the one thing I will have to go for is the 2TB SSD option, which is sooo much street robbery, it's beyond belief.
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I never hear the fan on my M2 Max Macbook Pro except when starting the machine. And I run it most of the time with the lid closed on my desk with dual 4K displays connected, running a pile of Docker containers, browsers, test suites, IDE etc. So the fan is absolutely not going to wear much on these things.
By comparison my previous 2019 Intel Macbook Pro would start blasting the fans the moment you connect a 4K display to it even when it's not doing anything...
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It's not about hearing the fan. It's about it getting dirty and possibly requiring a replacement one day.
I have been through that with my 2008 MB, and as it was more than 5 years after buying it, Apple said "sorry, we don't support this anymore, even if you pay us" (a**holes), so I had to order from some questionable chinese sources, got a turd the first time after waiting for "only" 4 weeks, had to wait somewhat between 6-7 weeks for a better one.
Add to this that Apple changed the fan connections (hence slightly different fans were required) compared to the 2007 model (which otherwise was pretty much identical) that I still had around (total damage covered by my insurance), so I couldn't use the fan from that one, the required ones then were noticeably tougher to get, too.
Taking the damn thing apart was quite a big deal, too, had to purchase 3 different torx drivers to even get into and then fool around with those tiny flat cable connectors, sweating all the time as I feared to break things with my big ass fat fingers.
So, less fans = more good!
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I have an active license from having purchased cabs for a CAB M+, that is long gone, so they're giving to me for free. It will be interesting to hear how this sounds.
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When I ran a Mac I used an app called smcfancontrol to manually set the fan speed just to see that it was still spinning.
I use that regularly . Works perfectly. I use a mid-2012 souped up MacBookPro, and it's BY FAR the best computer I've ever owned. I can't believe anyone is complaining about this stuff, but luckilly the complainers have hundreds of options to remedy anything. There are so many guys online who rebuild macs and provide loads of power. .. I probably got mine for 500.00 many years ago. .I bought rebuilt ones for 2 of my kids and they still use them many years later. Anyway, Genome works perfectly on mine as this thread is about Genome. . As for the quality of Genome, my opinion is it looks very nice. . The Splawn amp is great (I have 3 SPlawns in real-life) . . The Klon and BluesBreaker are great. The Reverb and Delays are totally primitive. . (McRocklin's Polychrome Dsp has the best Reverb and Delays that I've used on any Sw by far) , there are a lot of bad sounding 'presets' , and.... . . yes it has loads of potential.. There's my views after messing around with it the past 2 nights.
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Ever since a LOT has been changed. No more RAM or HDD/SSD updates possible. Not a single user servicable part inside at all anymore (whereas you could pretty much dissemble the entire machine and repair it back then, just with a little help of iFixit). No optical drives anymore. Not bad per se, but I exchanged mine in favour of a second HDD/SSD, which was just excellent.
All of that is over, you can't even exactly take your Mac to whatever qualified computer tech when there's technical problems anymore, it all needs to be done by Apple.
And we only went to the entire Apple thing because there's no Genome for me...
I assume most of the guys on these digital /modeling forums have money to buy the latest greatest thing, so a newer computer than 2010 is a definitely a must! I have no intention of updating my 2012 MBP as it's perfect (has 2 drives, 1 an SSD, 16gigs of ram, 100% dependable ,etc) , but when it does break, time to buy something newer. That just goes without saying right? If you can't afford it, I'm sorry and hopefully sometime you'll be able to. You're not missing much with Genome. There are loads of choices for guitar sw apps/plugins out there and so far this isn't better than many of them. I spent time complaining that Tonocracy wouldn't work as a 'plug in' on mine, but I know it's about the 'programming' not the computer in that case. In this case, they tell you OS 10.13 and up will be fine and I believe them, and if it's not, they'll fix it
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Why exactly? It really only is because Apple decided to drop support (for no technical reasons, as can be proven by it being patchable).
It's not even exactly about being able to afford things. It's simply driving me mad that I have to pretty much trash a computer that is still working absolutely great for the most part. Add to this that I have 4 SSDs in this machine and several things connected straight via USB (I even added a USB/PCI card). To add all this to a newer machine, I'll have to buy a decent HUB (adding some more 200-300 to the overall cost) and some external SSD cases. Not only will this cost me additional money, all of a sudden I will find myself with more cables and connected devices just hanging around where I don't need them. Apple offers zero alternatives to that (unless I buy a Mac Pro, which at least right now, would be downright idiotic as they're running Intel CPUs, let alone the incredibly stupid prices).
Why? Read your post . You surely don't sound happy. If you're happy with it, nevermind, my bad
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