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[AutomationBias]

Link to bassman thread?

but yes you should get one

I think this might be my fault.

 

[la szum]

That bass channel is useless for guitar and the mods are totally reversible.

First part is badlerdash. I've heard it a lot. Kind of a default assumption, and then
it gets spread about in the gear community when it is more about a lack of imagination
and experience with trying to get the Bass Channel to work than a limitation in the
amp/circuit.

There's so many ways to use and enjoy the versatility and options of a Bassman (Normal/
Bass/Hi/ Lo). With all of those inputs and creative routing the largest limitation is going
to be offered by the user. Just that default assumption that "it is unusable" and it needs
to be modded to be workable are notions that I will challenge every time I see them being
spread about.

Ultimately, we can do what we want with their gear. The beauty of ownership.

 

[EOengineer]

First part is badlerdash. I've heard it a lot. Kind of a default assumption, and then
it gets spread about in the gear community when it is more about a lack of imagination
and experience with trying to get the Bass Channel to work than a limitation in the
amp/circuit.

There's so many ways to use and enjoy the versatility and options of a Bassman (Normal/
Bass/Hi/ Lo). With all of those inputs and creative routing the largest limitation is going
to be offered by the user. Just that default assumption that "it is unusable" and it needs
to be modded to be workable are notions that I will challenge every time I see them being
spread about.

Ultimately, we can do what we want with their gear. The beauty of ownership.

Would it make you feel better if I qualified my comment with FOR MY USE CASES?

That channel would be much more valuable to me as a player if it wasn’t a shitty bass channel that most bass players don’t even use.

YMMV.

 

[EOengineer]

@la szum What are doing with your bass channel? Jumping it? Mine sounds like crap with guitar. I didn’t much care for it jumped either, thus my preference to turn it into something I’d actually use. I’d never mod it if I couldnt change it back.

It’s a bass, treble, and volume knob. I don’t know what I could be missing. In stock form there’s just nothing usable for me.

 

[AutomationBias]

I need to verse myself in Bassmans, they pop up regularly down here for $1500 and under but I have no clue which ones are the "good" ones. Almost all my couch noodling is done with a Bassman model set to edge of breakup, I spend more time with that kind of tone than I do any metal tone these days.

I think the 65 Bassguy in the Fractal is the AB165 circuit, which is the classic blackface Bassman (from '64-'67). The earlier heads are variations of a different circuit (6G6, 6G6-A, 6G6-B and 6G6-C). The first one has a tube rectifier. The A is exactly the same, except with a solid state rectifier, and the B and C have a tone stack that's closer to the AB165. You can't go entirely by the appearance (or even the tube chart!), because they just kept churning out amps with whatever parts they had available. Johan Segeborn has a good comparison video of some models here.

 

[EOengineer]

I think the 65 Bassguy in the Fractal is the AB165 circuit, which is the classic blackface Bassman (from '64-'67). The earlier heads are variations of a different circuit (6G6, 6G6-A, 6G6-B and 6G6-C). The first one has a tube rectifier. The A is exactly the same, except with a solid state rectifier, and the B and C have a tone stack that's closer to the AB165. You can't go entirely by the appearance (or even the tube chart!), because they just kept churning out amps with whatever parts they had available. Johan Segeborn has a good comparison video of some models here.

Yeah as an example, there are quite a few AB165s out there sporting the AA165 tube chart.

 

[maguchi]

Kind of a diffrent amp, but what about the '90s Tweed Bassman reissues. I played through a lot of those and they did everything well.