Synergy Owners Thread

I’m not in the market for something like that, but $999 doesn’t seem too crazy. The normal one slot dock is $500, so you’re paying another $500 for a tube power section and the digital backend stuff.

Though, if this doesn’t have the integrated clean channel of the Syn30, its use-cases will be pretty narrow imo.
 
Whizzinby said:
I’m not in the market for something like that, but $999 doesn’t seem too crazy. The normal one slot dock is $500, so you’re paying another $500 for a tube power section and the digital backend stuff.

Though, if this doesn’t have the integrated clean channel of the Syn30, its use-cases will be pretty narrow imo.
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It has a clean channel same as Astro
Just a pure clean no drive
Volume and tone and bright switch I believe
I think it just a great bedroom and recording amp
And a good way for someone to buy into the Synergy platform
I mean it has headphone out
Midi , fx loop, it a great tool for the home studio , it also has a master that Syn30 did not so you can control volumes a bit .

The biggest thing is what are the programable power amp settings and Reactance
If it programmable NFB that will add a lot more of and authentic feel to the individual mods

Like a real DRZ has no NFB
Vox no NFB
Recto Red no NFB

If you can set and store those kind of things that will somewhat address the whole the power amp makes all the modules feel and respond the same argument , to an extent
 
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Now I just have to figure out which modules I would want lol
Dr Zwreck, BE DLX Bogner XTC and an OG SLO would be my first picks I think of what is currently available
 
GTR37 said:
Now I just have to figure out which modules I would want lol
Dr Zwreck, BE DLX Bogner XTC and an OG SLO would be my first picks I think of what is currently available
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I think I'd go for the Z-Wreck and IICP. Maybe Deliverance.
 
laxu said:
I think I'd go for the Z-Wreck and IICP. Maybe Deliverance.
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They also has 3 new mods coming out sounds like one is a Toneking for sure that will do a Fender/ Vox thing

Other 2 are new partners
 
GTR37 said:
They also has 3 new mods coming out sounds like one is a Toneking for sure that will do a Fender/ Vox thing

Other 2 are new partners
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I guess Tone King Imperial? Which is basically Blackface + Tweed. I don't think Tone King makes a Fender+Vox thing. Not sure how they will pull that off when the Imperial is a classic non-master design with a built-in attenuator. I'd imagine the custom Eminence speaker and the chassis design are also big parts of the sound of that amp.

I've only played the real thing once many years ago at a store, but it had one the most beautiful clean tones I've ever played. The Tweed side got loud real quick and I didn't know it had an attenuator so I didn't get as much out of it.

One issue with the Synergy system is that each module might benefit from a different cab/speaker(s), but you have to pick a compromise. While e.g a Greenback cab will sound good with most things, it's not going to make the most out of say a Vox preamp which would work great with Alnico Blue/Gold.

I don't think even the SYN-2 + SYN-5050 can do "left out for module 1 and right out for module 2" type deal where you just run each module into a stereo poweramp and different cabs, one dedicated to each channel? That was one of the nicest features of the Yamaha THR100HD where you could run its channels to different cabs, or run both at the same time.

SYN-20 will at least solve that for recording purposes by using IRs.
 
laxu said:
One issue with the Synergy system is that each module might benefit from a different cab/speaker(s), but you have to pick a compromise.
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Yeah but that’s playing guitar in general. You can use a modeler and have 147 different IRs with different cab and mic combos and you’re still making a compromise by using studio monitors or "FRFR". Any setup with a fixed primary output method will end in some form of compromise.

I find enough variance with preamps, modules etc. to make the modular & rack approach fun and useful, so long as I don’t hammer the same gain profile endlessly.

Having a couple cab options is never a bad thing though, for sure. 👍
 
Whizzinby said:
so long as I don’t hammer the same gain profile endlessly.
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Billy Gardell Reaction GIF by CBS
 
The more I read it seems intriguing apparently FRYETTE has designed the power amp voicings and controls looking at the power station it talks a lot about a reactance circuit that make vintage amps sound modern and vice versa or loose amps tighter , the Syn 20 has a reactance control
I am just guessing but maybe that is a NFB dial
It seems like SYN20 might be
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-Basically a Freidman Simple clean channel
- A Syn 1 dock
- FRYETTE integrated power station
- NFB control
-Synergy IR loader and software

Honestly for $999 it seems like a pretty good home studio practice and recording amp especially if you have a bunch of mods
 
GTR37 said:
The more I read it seems intriguing apparently FRYETTE has designed the power amp voicings and controls looking at the power station it talks a lot about a reactance circuit that make vintage amps sound modern and vice versa or loose amps tighter , the Syn 20 has a reactance control
I am just guessing but maybe that is a NFB dial
It seems like SYN20 might be
-
-Basically a Freidman Simple clean channel
- A Syn 1 dock
- FRYETTE integrated power station
- NFB control
-Synergy IR loader and software

Honestly for $999 it seems like a pretty good home studio practice and recording amp especially if you have a bunch of mods
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I bought a SYN-30 and it felt really anemic - lousier than my 20W ENGL Ironball - I sent it back the next day so I'm not too optimistic about a 20W head from this lot.

That said, the form-factor and all of the other features are pretty sweet; just wish they'd pull something like Victory did with the Kraken or PRS did with the MT15.
 
2dor said:
I bought a SYN-30 and it felt really anemic - lousier than my 20W ENGL Ironball - I sent it back the next day so I'm not too optimistic about a 20W head from this lot.

That said, the form-factor and all of the other features are pretty sweet; just wish they'd pull something like Victory did with the Kraken or PRS did with the MT15.
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Ya I don’t love the smaller amps that said Freidman 20 watters like the Taco , JJ and JEL have been pretty popular and sound damn good in the clips I have heard , so maybe
I guess we will see

*in other possible rumours
Someone on FB said
Come on and hurry up with a Silver Jubillee

To which their response was
Funny you should mention that , we have a big announcement coming up before NAMM

Perhaps they are hinting at partnership with Marshall ?
 
GTR37 said:
Ya I don’t love the smaller amps that said Freidman 20 watters like the Taco , JJ and JEL have been pretty popular and sound damn good in the clips I have heard , so maybe
I guess we will see

*in other possible rumours
Someone on FB said
Come on and hurry up with a Silver Jubillee

To which their response was
Funny you should mention that , we have a big announcement coming up before NAMM

Perhaps they are hinting at partnership with Marshall ?
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Maybe BAD taking over Marshall Amps? There were some rumors going around that Marshall was up for sale again.

Whatever it is, looks like some cool toys coming very soon.
 
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2dor said:
I bought a SYN-30 and it felt really anemic - lousier than my 20W ENGL Ironball - I sent it back the next day so I'm not too optimistic about a 20W head from this lot.
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The SYN5050 power amp is similar - lacks balls and thump compared to every other 50-watter it was put up against. I thought I may be a dud unit but the replacement was the same, and others reported similar results. Likely the tiny output transformer.
 
2dor said:
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Maybe BAD taking over Marshall Amps? There were some rumors going around that Marshall was up for sale again.

Whatever it is, looks like some cool toys coming very soon.
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I don’t know if they are taking them over but Marshall really wants to get back in the game I think
They are announcing a mod shop
And Fluff says they will be showing a new amp at Namm which is the first in many years
Setting up a licence deal with Synergy I don’t think is out of the realm of possibility
 
2dor said:
That's a hard amp to dial in tbh. I'd rather they do the Evil Pumpkin or NATAS.
But whatever it is, it'll be well received I bet.
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Actually the pumpkin 🎃 would make sense it seems to be the most popular one by far

If they get Marshall hopefully
Silver Jubilee/ JVM
 
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