So, about that Fender spring reverb…

[Stone]

I have no plans for using a spring verb, but I'm sure a lot would
Why I say It could possibly be implemented in the fm3 knowing it would be limited, as I have mentioned anyone using a spring verb preset would consist of a very simple preset not a kitchen sink one

 

[norminal]

2. No, but that’s, like, my opinion, man.

 

[metropolis_4]

1. Yes. The Convolution spring in TMP is the same as the TM amps.
2. No, but that’s, like, my opinion, man.
3. Yes and No.

Thanks for confirming on the amps!

 

[yek]

The latest Axe-Fx III firmware has an excellent '63 spring reverb that will be ported to the FM-9 and VP-4 soon.

Is that the 'regular' Small/Medium/Large Spring type, or another one?

 

[mbenigni]

@metropolis_4, are you the guy who said he doesn't care for the Fender Tre-Verb? And have you ruled out pedals with mechanical springs in them?

 

[metropolis_4]

@metropolis_4, are you the guy who said he doesn't care for the Fender Tre-Verb? And have you ruled out pedals with mechanical springs in them?

That wasn’t me, I’ve never tried the Tre-Verb. How is it?

I keep playing with the idea of getting a SurfyBear but the size and power requirements always hold me back… maybe I’ll have to bite that bullet one of these days

 

[JiveTurkey]

That wasn’t me, I’ve never tried the Tre-Verb. How is it?

I keep playing with the idea of getting a SurfyBear but the size and power requirements always hold me back… maybe I’ll have to bite that bullet one of these days

I think @Boudoir Guitar had one and was not impressed?

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

I think @Boudoir Guitar had one and was not impressed?

Not had the Surfy Bear - I think it’d be great.

I’ve got the Crazy Tube Circuits White Whale and find it only useful for super intense settings on the reverb side.

 

[metropolis_4]

With pedals the three that seem to rise to the top in online discussions are the Topanga, True Spring, and Oceans 11.

I almost bought an Oceans 11 but then I read some complaints about digital artifacts in the tail. I’ve heard mixed reviews about the True Spring.

I might have to pick one up and try for myself… or I’ll just buy another TMP

 

[dk_ace]

With pedals the three that seem to rise to the top in online discussions are the Topanga, True Spring, and Oceans 11.

I almost bought an Oceans 11 but then I read some complaints about digital artifacts in the tail. I’ve heard mixed reviews about the True Spring.

I might have to pick one up and try for myself… or I’ll just buy another TMP

Spring verb is too personal and subjective IMO. You have to try it for yourself. One persons favorite that “nails it” is completely unusable in another person’s opinion. Of course you could say that about most things effects and modelers, but it seems more pronounced with the spring verbs.

I find the public FM9 FW (prior to most recent updates) close enough to my Ventris that I don’t bother using the Ventris outboard although it isn’t quite as nice if you crank it and listen closely to the tail. The Ventris I’ve compared directly to an old fender amp and it was the only thing I thought was there. I don’t have an outboard fender unit to compare directly to, but it held up well against the clips I dialed it in against for a fender outboard tank and a surfybear.

The oceans 11 to my ears sounded like the low rent version, that’s just how I hear it. It doesn’t have what I’m looking for. Don’t remember much about the topanga.

I’m looking forward to checking out the new stuff when it’s ready for FM9.

D

 

[metropolis_4]

Spring verb is too personal and subjective IMO. You have to try it for yourself. One persons favorite that “nails it” is completely unusable in another person’s opinion. Of course you could say that about most things effects and modelers, but it seems more pronounced with the spring verbs.

I find the public FM9 FW (prior to most recent updates) close enough to my Ventris that I don’t bother using the Ventris outboard although it isn’t quite as nice if you crank it and listen closely to the tail. The Ventris I’ve compared directly to an old fender amp and it was the only thing I thought was there. I don’t have an outboard fender unit to compare directly to, but it held up well against the clips I dialed it in against for a fender outboard tank and a surfybear.

The oceans 11 to my ears sounded like the low rent version, that’s just how I hear it. It doesn’t have what I’m looking for. Don’t remember much about the topanga.

I’m looking forward to checking out the new stuff when it’s ready for FM9.

D

Thanks for the info! Depending on how things go I might have to pick up a True Spring to try for myself.

Either that or I’ll become the weirdo running a 6G15 in front of a modeler

 

[newpedals]

Thanks for the info! Depending on how things go I might have to pick up a True Spring to try for myself.

Either that or I’ll become the weirdo running a 6G15 in front of a modeler

Tube reverbs are so cool. Some time back I heard an older guitarist play, who had bought his vintage amp with him. Had a reverb tank. When I enquired, he told me it had tubes in it. He sounded so beautiful.

 

[metropolis_4]

Tube reverbs are so cool. Some time back I heard an older guitarist play, who had bought his vintage amp with him. Had a reverb tank. When I enquired, he told me it had tubes in it. He sounded so beautiful.

Yeah, tube driven reverb is

 

[Boudoir Guitar]

The key for me is the tubes (real or modeled) after the reverb. Spring reverb always in front of the amp, if it’s meant to sound remotely authentic.

 

[la szum]

With pedals the three that seem to rise to the top in online discussions are the Topanga, True Spring, and Oceans 11.

I almost bought an Oceans 11 but then I read some complaints about digital artifacts in the tail. I’ve heard mixed reviews about the True Spring.

I might have to pick one up and try for myself… or I’ll just buy another TMP

Van Amps Sole Mate is another to check out when it comes to floor units
and actual springs. I don't think any of the stand alone pedals (as clunky as
they are) get to that level of clank and boing you probably want. Tiny springs
are tiny.

I'd, personally, get some kind of small digital emulation (like the Topanga), or
just call in the big dogs and go full Brain Setzer.

Funny how you can buy a used Deluxe Reverb (with Reverb!) for less than you can
one of those Reissue Tanks.

 

[mbenigni]

That wasn’t me, I’ve never tried the Tre-Verb. How is it?

I keep playing with the idea of getting a SurfyBear but the size and power requirements always hold me back… maybe I’ll have to bite that bullet one of these days

I love the Tre-Verb, personally, but agree with the preceding posts saying reverb is very subjective. The Tre-Verb is relatively big and expensive. I wound up with a True Spring, and I love it, but it doesn't really do the the "drip" thing - even in modes with names like "Drip King", etc.

I've seen a couple of smaller pedals with mechanical springs recently, but I can't think of a single name now that I want to... If something pops up again I'll post it here.

 

[Someoldqueenorother]

Yeah, tube driven reverb is

Solid state is pretty good too. Years ago I had a Laney Supergroup reverb unit like these. Apparently they had germanium transistors. I had a Van Amps Solemate in front of it for a little bit of short reverb and then this behind it going into the power amps of a JC-120. Big clean reverb machine and no mistake. I actually preferred that to the vintage Fender reverb unit I had for a bit.

 

[metropolis_4]

…but it doesn't really do the the "drip" thing - even in modes with names like "Drip King", etc.

Bummer…

The gear world just keeps pushing me back to the TMP

 

[Stone]

With pedals the three that seem to rise to the top in online discussions are the Topanga, True Spring, and Oceans 11.

I almost bought an Oceans 11 but then I read some complaints about digital artifacts in the tail. I’ve heard mixed reviews about the True Spring.

I might have to pick one up and try for myself… or I’ll just buy another TMP

This, Buy the TMP and a QC you will be armed to the teeth and can tackle anything ...!!!

 

[Stone]

Bummer…

The gear world just keeps pushing me back to the TMP

Aint nothing wrong if its the right tool for the Job