Potential Mesa Reissues? IIC+ and Dual Rec

[Desertdweller]

Hell yeah! Very helpful.

Re: graphic eq, I need to experiment, but I see some create the V trying to keep the sliders below the mid point and some that crank everything above the midline except the 750 slider. Is that just a preference thing or is there any core difference in how the circuit handles one or the other?

What I’ve felt to be fairly universal is the lowest slider is high and the mid slider is low. For the 6600 slider you really have to balance it with the presence knob, your pickups, and the cab, to get where you want. The low mid and the high mid slider are fun and you can get a lot of different styles of sounds by checking where you want them. This is one thing that makes the JP2C fun is that you can set one of the dual EQs to a high 240 and a low 2200, and the second one to the opposite, and you have two very different sounds to run with.

 

[la szum]

Try playing Petrucci licks on a 2203.

Challenge accepted!

 

[Elf]

@Whizzinby

Treble is gain
Gain is also gain

I read this in my head in Yngwie Malmsteen's voice! :)

 

[la szum]

Legends of the Mark, I’m dipping my toes into the waters with the Synergy module.

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Controls Questions:

1. So the channel 1 volume affects the lead channel gain. Is that because the channel 1 is acting as a boost? It sounds like that is doing a boost to the circuit, hence the extra gain on the lead channel.
2. Do you guys normally use OD’s with the IIC?
   1. What sort of OD’s do you think work best? I slapped it with an 808 and it sounds pretty good, albeit I’m wondering if an OD without the massive mid mid bump might work better with the IIC, which seems like an amp youre trying to nail the midrange controls on. Might try the SD1 later.
3. Is the lead shift adding gain? Definitely feels tighter, I’m engaging that with an OD for high gain, then turning it off for more hard rockish variations.

A Mesa Mark Manual pdf would go a long ways to answering a bunch of questions, Whizz. Mesa Boogie
have always had the best manuals in the business. They go in depth explaining the interactive nature of
the controls, and often explains why they are that way. Also, suggested settings are often included for
different styles----even if most people revert and dumb the amp down to one style alone.

https://mesa-boogie.imgix.net/media/User%20Manuals/070425-MkV_160928.pdf

https://mesa-boogie.imgix.net/070655_MarkVII_230914.pdf

 

[dbagchee]

Here we go:

 

[EOengineer]

The IIC+ can only do metal. Just ask Springsteen and Prince.

 

[EOengineer]

Here we go:

Interesting how the treble knob doesn’t crack 5 for the entire demo. Considering what a huge part of the IIC+ legacy is heavy tone, they represented zero of that in the video.

Strange marketing decision.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Interesting how the treble knob doesn’t crack 5 for the entire demo. Considering what a huge part of the IIC+ legacy is heavy tone, they represented zero of that in the video.

Strange marketing decision.

I watched this and agree completely on no heavies. I don't think I ever like the sounds Boogie dials up in vids for their own products. Really ever.

 

[EOengineer]

I watched this and agree completely on no heavies. I don't think I ever like the sounds Boogie dials up in vids for their own products. Really ever.

Yeah I’ve long had a theory that these guys still don’t really fully understand the relevance of their more successful circuits. They see the impact because it inflates their bottom line in a desirable way, but the powers that be never seem to be using the amps like we and other famous artists use them.

I don’t think that distinction mattered until they started cutting features out of the amps, like the dual drive knobs.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Yeah I’ve long had a theory that these guys still don’t really fully understand the relevance of their more successful circuits. They see the impact because it inflates their bottom line in a desirable way, but the powers that be never seem to be using the amps like we and other famous artists use them.

I don’t think that distinction mattered until they started cutting features out of the amps, like the dual drive knobs.

The scratchiness and graininess I hear gets emphasized in most of their vids. Dry sizzle to my ears?

 

[EOengineer]

The scratchiness and graininess I hear gets emphasized in most of their vids. Dry sizzle to my ears?

I hear that here too and I attribute that directly to the weird settings. In particular the higher midrange and very low treble.

You can get the same graininess boosting an amp with a pedal that isn’t pushing enough top end. There should be dryness there, particularly in the pick attack, but at least in these marketing videos, something’s off.

I’m not blaming the amp yet. We will have to see what the YouTubers can tease out of it.

 

[EOengineer]

Also had to laugh at the “amazing layout” called out near the beginning of the video. There are countless positive qualities we can celebrate with these amps but let’s be real…common sense layouts probably isn’t one of them and I’m a little concerned that the comment came from the guy seemingly in charge of the project.

 

[dbagchee]

Yeah uninspiring blues lawyer audio clips. What’s funny is their teaser video had some nice heavy clips. I’m sure there will be a barrage of videos soon.

 

[spawnofthesith]

Mesa demos have always been kinda odd lol

The demo clips could be a calculated move to lure in lower gain types since obviously this amp already has the attention of heavy tone folks/'tallica fans (and an already backordered preorder docket to get through)


Or it could just be mesa being goobers


hard to tell

 

[spawnofthesith]

 

[spawnofthesith]

Still no brootz But sounding pretty good here imo

 

[la szum]

 

[norminal]

Here we go:

They should’ve invited John Petrucci or James Hetfield down to the Gibson Garage for a demo video.

 

[la szum]

Hey man! Tough-ass crowd. You guys have your coffee yet. Need a sammich?


I wholesomely and heartily approve of the mostly GEQ Off Mesa Demo.





Mostly because we all know everyone else under the sun will not do it that way.
Just have to be patient for the inevitable (and redundant!) Ola-fication of the IIC+.

 

[la szum]

I feel awkward and uneasy defending Giboogie. Did we trade places @spawnofthesith ???