Plugin Piracy Thread

[paisleywookiee]

Haven't seen you making such distinction until now. And fringe? Take a look at the NAM site and search for NDSP plugins.

I'm talking about amp capturing. AMPS. Sorry to have confused you.

 

[Tito83]

C is not literally A. B is literally A.

Yes, it is not exact the same - and yet it's not morally 100% different. One can make a pack (and already have) of every JM preset on the plugin and make them available freely - apparently some here think that's perfectly fine. Do you? I don't.

 

[texhex]

Yes, it is not exact the same - and yet it's not morally 100% different. One can make a pack (and already have) of every JM preset on the plugin and make them available freely - apparently some here think that's perfectly fine. Do you? I don't.

I think it’s fine to make a copy of a sound of an amp.

 

[paisleywookiee]

apparently some here think that's perfectly fine.

No one here thinks that.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

@paisleywookiee @ian_dissonance @LP59 @texhex seem to fully agree unless I missed something.


In this case I didn't even mentioned trial period. I also don't think it's ok to share clones of the sounds of a paid plugin even if you own it. But I guess some are ok with it because "it's different" and also because it's approved by their social group. Again, no real moral consideration, just convenience and herd mentality in play.

So no one then or you'd have quoted it. Honestly this thread was about people paying for plugins, that's all.
You land in with a completely different conversation about equating profiling and theft, a conversation none of us were having. Your point becomes more niche and when I asked you to quote the people who agreed with your niche point you can't.

Seriously, either quote the people who said it's fine to clone a plugin but stealing a plugin is bad or STFU.

 

[texhex]

I’ll go on record that I’m fine “Profiling/Capturing/NAMing” a Plugin. You aren’t getting the full functionality of the software.

Pirating the Plugin is completely different as you are literally stealing software. DUH!

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I’ll go on record that I’m fine “Profiling/Capturing/NAMing” a Plugin. You aren’t getting the full functionality of the software.

Pirating the Plugin is completely different as you are literally stealing software. DUH!

This. and anyone who has ever owned an amp or amp modelling software should have no difficulty understanding it

 

[Tito83]

So no one then or you'd have quoted it. Honestly this thread was about people paying for plugins, that's all.
You land in with a completely different conversation about equating profiling and theft, a conversation none of us were having. Your point becomes more niche and when I asked you to quote the people who agreed with your niche point you can't.

Seriously, either quote the people who said it's fine to clone a plugin but stealing a plugin is bad or STFU.

The fact someone haven't said it word for word, doesn't mean that's not what they mean. Hard concept to grasp, I know. When they all keep saying you can't copyright sound, that pretty much unavoidably includes plugins. @paisleywookiee said it was not what he meant, fair enough.

A couple of people showed up flat out agreeing with that.

Frankly it's weird how people get comfortable with talking like this on the internet. I'm pretty certain you don't talk to anyone like that face to face.

 

[paisleywookiee]

The fact someone haven't said it word for word, doesn't mean that's not what they mean. Hard concept to grasp, I know. When they all keep saying you can't copyright sound, that pretty much unavoidably includes plugins. @paisleywookiee said it was not what he meant, fair enough.

A couple of people showed up flat out agreeing with that.

Frankly it's weird how people get comfortable with talking like this on the internet. I'm pretty certain you don't talk to anyone like that face to face.

I do. I do talk like this in person, and I'd tell you that this is at this point an absolutely annoying conversation.

 

[SillyOctpuss]

I do. I do talk like this in person, and I'd tell you that this is at this point an absolutely annoying conversation.

Absolutely.

 

[Tito83]

I do. I do talk like this in person, and I'd tell you that this is at this point an absolutely annoying conversation.

Real useful conversations are usually annoying. Just like exercise isn't exercise if you don't struggle. Thanks for taking part in it.

We'd have fun talking about politics or religion.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Real useful conversations are usually annoying. Just like exercise isn't exercise if you don't struggle. Thanks for taking part in it.

We'd have fun talking about politics or religion.

Eh. Useful conversations can be disagreements, without being exhausting and annoying.

 

[ian_dissonance]

The fact someone haven't said it word for word, doesn't mean that's not what they mean. Hard concept to grasp, I know. When they all keep saying you can't copyright sound, that pretty much unavoidably includes plugins. @paisleywookiee said it was not what he meant, fair enough.

A couple of people showed up flat out agreeing with that.

Frankly it's weird how people get comfortable with talking like this on the internet. I'm pretty certain you don't talk to anyone like that face to face.

You’re right, in real life I would have just walked away after the first goofy ass “what about” you tossed out. I feel like in real life you probably would have tried to follow me, lol.

 

[Tito83]

Eh. Useful conversations can be disagreements, without being exhausting and annoying.

It's like benching but stopping having 5 in the tank. That's not effort.

You’re right, in real life I would have just walked away after the first goofy ass “what about” you tossed out. I feel like in real life you probably would have tried to follow me, lol.

Nah, we'd be fine most likely. Live I can be annoying and endearing at the same time. It's my gift.

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Argh... but the real question be:

what kind of music do pirates make with all these cracks?

 

[SillyOctpuss]

Argh... but the real question be:

what kind of music do pirates make with all these cracks?


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They mostly just fill their hard drives so they can have all the options, but never use them. They spend more time scrolling warez sites and messing around trying to get cracks to work than actually using any of it. A mate of mine does this and spends so much time trying different cracked daws and plugins he never actually properly learns any of them.

 

[Mongillo19]

Argh... but the real question be:

what kind of music do pirates make with all these cracks?


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[Piing]

This was side B of the Dead Kennedy's "In God We Trust, Inc" cassette. I am wondering if there was a tab on that side, or if you had to use cello tape

 

[[Nathan]]

Nam is open source, go for gold
Tonex is paid, buy it

Whatever you do inside those is a completely separate discussion than using cracked neuraldsp plugins. If you can’t see that then the foundational discussion is already lost. The conversation is different enough that it would warrant its own discussion as it’s not straight up piracy. There might even be terms and conditions in the literature with those plugins, I’m not sure.

 

[paisleywookiee]

Nam is open source, go for gold
Tonex is paid, buy it

Whatever you do inside those is a completely separate discussion than using cracked neuraldsp plugins. If you can’t see that then the foundational discussion is already lost. The conversation is different enough that it would warrant its own discussion as it’s not straight up piracy. There might even be terms and conditions in the literature with those plugins, I’m not sure.

But what about........