Plugin Piracy Thread

[Orvillain]

There's no claim, there was no justification, I just said what happened. I was wrong, sure. People change, grow.

You're very very brave to criticize anyone's logic after "Which is an illegal practice. Thus, the thread is about legality."



What are you talking about? Of course it does, it gets codified and enforced by law, but you're crazy to think its meaning solely relies on the law, the concept still stands.

I care not for your feelings based opinions.

 

[[Nathan]]

I’ve said this before but plugin piracy has its own nuances to other forms of piracy (tv shows, games, ebook downloads etc).

Captures seems to come up a lot and now the 11rack hardware stuff. I don’t know what the 11rack situation is whether it was a paid addon that you can’t access or for some reason your model doesn’t have access to it when it should, or whether the time has passed and they just won’t sell it to anyone. All of these nuances make a difference.

They all deserve their own conversation to actually be productive, otherwise it’s just goalpost moving and irrelevant scenarios to the one at hand, plugin piracy.

What does 11rack not allowing you to update the hardware have to do with people cracking neuraldsp plugins, not a lot.

 

[Tito83]

I’ve said this before but plugin piracy has its own nuances to other forms of piracy (tv shows, games, ebook downloads etc).

Captures seems to come up a lot and now the 11rack hardware stuff. I don’t know what the 11rack situation is whether it was a paid addon that you can’t access or for some reason your model doesn’t have access to it when it should, or whether the time has passed and they just won’t sell it to anyone. All of these nuances make a difference.

They all deserve their own conversation to actually be productive, otherwise it’s just goalpost moving and irrelevant scenarios to the one at hand, plugin piracy.

What does 11rack not allowing you to update the hardware have to do with people cracking neuraldsp plugins, not a lot.

Thank you for pointing out nuance is important.

A usual way to test any moral stance is to test it in different scenarios, poking and prodding it to see where it fails and how to modify, change, or maybe even recognize its flaws and keep an eye on it because you can't find a better solution.

The 11R situation came up when someone asked a situation where I think cracking is... Maybe "right" is not the word, maybe acceptable is better.

The profiling came up because I see a lot of people seeing it as acceptable vs piracy. And yet, when I try to put myself in the shoes of the developer, while I could think flat out pirate copies are worse than profiles, I can't imagine any developer being perfectly fine with a pack of a number of profiles of his plugin on a free website. Again, both different, both still not ethical IMO. There are quite a few people that think one it's ok while the other is not, and I'm curious because I've yet to see any real moral argument made, everyone that tried to justify it used laws.

Maybe there are some out there that may be ok with this, who know - I'd be curious to hear from them, but I really don't see it being a lot of them. And I have to say, even if they are ok with it, I would not be and personally would not use profiles from plugins even if they say it's ok.