New Friedman head? Friedman Vintage

Sirloin said:
Well, I currently have the latest version Smallbox (v3), original SL-67, and a Germino Lead 35. The Smallbox is a cool amp, but sounds nothing like the Suhr or Germino.

Recent amp shootout at my house with a few of my amps and friends’s.

My friend’s Phil X amp is the best sounding Friedman amp I have heard / played to date.
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HELL YEAH🤘🏻
We would make great room’mates..
-me & those amps!
I bet those cabs are holdin’ the killer driver’s💯
 
metropolis_4 said:
I don’t care if it’s a pure Plexi design, but a lot of my favorite sounds in a Plexi are clean, edge of breakup, and light gain. I love using them with a Tele for Brad Paisley type of country tones.

So I’m not as interested in a Plexi style amp that is geared towards hotrodded, heavier distortion.
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The JVM 410H channel 1 green mode is killer for that
 
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saarangnarayan said:
You can turn the normal channel volume to 0 and it'd be like plugging into the bright channel (and vice versa), according to Dave Friedman.
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Wouldn’t the extra gain stage still be in the circuit though? Unless he’s doing something to remove it if volume is at zero.

It’s been a while, but what I seem to remember is that Plexi’s sound more open plugged straight into 1 instead of jumped with the normal channel volume off.

I could be wrong
 
metropolis_4 said:
Wouldn’t the extra gain stage still be in the circuit though? Unless he’s doing something to remove it if volume is at zero.

It’s been a while, but what I seem to remember is that Plexi’s sound more open plugged straight into 1 instead of jumped with the normal channel volume off.

I could be wrong
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The inputs are in parallel when jumped, so no extra gain stage, but there is some impedance loading when jumping the channels. That's why EJ is using an Y-cable to use both inputs. I'm a top left input kinda guy myself :)
 
Blix said:
The inputs are in parallel when jumped, so no extra gain stage, but there is some impedance loading when jumping the channels. That's why EJ is using an Y-cable to use both inputs. I'm a top left input kinda guy myself :)
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That makes sense, I knew I heard something different but I didn’t know exactly what caused it. Thanks!
 
paisleywookiee said:
I only said "Okay", because we've already had that whole conversation here once, and also because I was waiting for the dick waving to subside before I responded further.
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First off, those are not all mine. Secondly, I only added the photo to show I do have hands on experience with those amps. Wasn’t waving dicks.

I think the Smallbox is a great amp. The loop works great as well. It’s definitely in the “Marshall” camp. But it is different from the “Plexi” clones by a fair margin. Not better or worse, just different.

I appreciate the snark.
 
Sirloin said:
First off, those are not all mine. Secondly, I only added the photo to show I do have hands on experience with those amps. Wasn’t waving dicks.

I think the Smallbox is a great amp. The loop works great as well. It’s definitely in the “Marshall” camp. But it is different from the “Plexi” clones by a fair margin. Not better or worse, just different.

I appreciate the snark.
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Dude, you’re good.
Looks good from my house👍
 
paisleywookiee said:
The point I was making (which seems to be zipping past and over people’s heads) is that I realize the Smallbox and MetroPlex don’t preserve the sanctity of Plexi tone. I don’t care. An amp without a loop is useless to me.

I think it’s great those amps exist. They serve a purpose. I was just commenting to the other guy that there are alternatives. Those alternatives haven’t been blessed by the almighty Plexi purists, but they’re still a lot of fun.
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I get it.
I had to radically except the design doesn’t work out with a loop.
I still want a damn loop!
 
paisleywookiee said:
The point I was making (which seems to be zipping past and over people’s heads) is that I realize the Smallbox and MetroPlex don’t preserve the sanctity of Plexi tone. I don’t care. An amp without a loop is useless to me.

I think it’s great those amps exist. They serve a purpose. I was just commenting to the other guy that there are alternatives. Those alternatives haven’t been blessed by the almighty Plexi purists, but they’re still a lot of fun.
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I’m not a plexi purist unless that’s what I want. I tend to like amps that are Marshall derivatives so I lean into amps that aren’t “pure” Marshall plexi but it’s true things like loops and master volumes effect they way they sound and feel so if I want a plexi amp those are a no go. Of course it’s up to each to decide whether that difference is something they care about or not. I agree with you though if you want an alternative that has some modern features there’s some really good options out there.
 
MirrorProfiles said:
Given the price of this is $3849, that doesn't seem the worst price.

www.sweetwater.com

Marshall 1959 Handwired 100-watt Tube Head

100W, 2-channel Tube Amp Head with 3-band EQ and Presence Control
www.sweetwater.com www.sweetwater.com

Although in the UK these are £1900 new, and I expect the Friedman to cost about double that here. If you want an FX loop on a 1959 use a powerstation instead, FX going through a distorted phase inverter sounds like ass.
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Or 1959 for the HW in Europe… and the Friedmann is gonna be what 3500… hard pass
 
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