Neural DSP - new teaser (Rabea X, nvm)

[mbenigni]

What does it even do?

Oh, it blends.

OK, so I said I could talk about it all day... maybe I shouldn't be such a wiseacre LOL. You can drop this block inline anywhere in a preset, specify an input source, and then fade between that source and whatever the Blend block would normally being seeing at its input. It can be used for the same things you might use a split/merge template for, but without clobbering an entire lane. And since it includes USB inputs in addition to the physical 1/4" ins (and other block outputs!), you can run digital audio to and from QC (e.g. to iPad or PC plugins or apps) without using up input/output blocks or lanes.

Check it out. It's MASSIVELY powerful if you're into unusual routing. And it's so easy to work with. Little things, like selecting different source settings per scene make it very intuitive.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Oh, it blends.

 

[Jynx]

Oh, it blends.

I haven't even tried it. When was it added? I don't remember it on any of the deep dives. Though I only skim those.

 

[GTR37]

I never really gave Rabea's Archetype a look but it does seem you can make some great sounds with it.

He does get some great sounds I could not

After trying a handful of the plug ins
Soldano and Gojira are still the standouts
Henson , Morello, Petrucci were nothing special
Nolly was decent but I feel still a bit generic

 

[norminal]

Correction: half-compatible. Full compatibility arriving with CorOS 3.4.

 

[mikah912]

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Again, you meanies just wait until 2028!

 

[norminal]

Again, you meanies just wait until 2028!

 

[Jynx]

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In fairness, he was asking about porting presets from the plugins. And we got it the very next update.

 

[mbenigni]

I haven't even tried it. When was it added? I don't remember it on any of the deep dives. Though I only skim those.

I think it was somewhere around 3.0. I missed it at first, too - which was pretty embarrassing since I'd been begging Line 6 for more or less the same functionality in HX for, oh, about a decade. (I proposed that additional sources - specifically, USB audio channels - be made available in the FX Loop "Return" block. Blend does the same, albeit in a separate block type, and adds the output signal from any of the other blocks in your preset as well.)

 

[GTR37]

I think it was somewhere around 3.0. I missed it at first, too - which was pretty embarrassing since I'd been begging Line 6 for more or less the same functionality in HX for, oh, about a decade. (I proposed that additional sources - specifically, USB audio channels - be made available in the FX Loop "Return" block. Blend does the same, albeit in a separate block type, and adds the output signal from any of the other blocks in your preset as well.)

Is it essentially like a Kemper morph
My understanding is they use it in the plug-in to take a clean amp and mix in a direct signal or a distorted amp and mix in a clean
Blend in Plini / Henson gives a piezo kind of effect

 

[mbenigni]

My understanding is they use it in the plug-in to take a clean amp and mix in a direct signal or a distorted amp and mix in a clean
Blend in Plini / Henson gives a piezo kind of effect

I think you're describing one application of a block that can be applied in many different ways. I primarily use it in order to have certain scenes route and crossfade guitar synth audio back into presets (having routed clean guitar signal out elsewhere, or using the default USB 1/2 clean channels) and then apply additional effects. But you can also use it to blend parts of signal chains on the same path (or different paths, or on different devices...)

For most users, the upshot is that it makes the 4 lanes a lot less limiting (for instance: in cases where you might have wanted to use more than one split/merge but couldn't.) For me, the big lightbulb moment wasn't that they added a Blend block (which seemed redundant at first glance) but rather, "OMG they actually added USB channels to the Blend block!!!"

 

[Orvillain]

when people talk about having a "container" to mix and match different parts of NDSP plugins, is there really that much to gain?

I honestly think a desktop version of the Quad Cortex, ala Helix Native, would be a pretty sick thing.

 

[mbenigni]

Is it essentially like a Kemper morph

P.S. Shorter answer to this specific question is "no". Kemper morphing is a powerful feature that's hard to even approximate on (most) other devices. The nearest you can do with QC, HX, BOSS/Roland, etc. is identify multiple expression targets that comprise points A and B, assign them, and tune mins/maxes to taste. Kemper morphing really streamlines that whole process. (Too bad it can't also morph between two different profiles.)

 

[DrewJD82]

Again, you meanies just wait until 2028!

I’ll see you on the dark side of the soon.

 

[mikah912]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but......after seeing Rabea's video on the surprisingly considerable amount of changes/new cab/presets/etc. added to the X version of his Archetype, I'm seriously considering grabbing this at the current holiday sale price.



Shame the goofy preliminary marketing decided to communicate none of this, but all water under the bridge now.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Yep, it‘s actually a really good plugin. Together with Nolly and Plini, it's one of my three favourite NDSP plug-ins.

 

[Jynx]

All the Xs so far have had extra shit added. The Nolly one has extra cabs and added a new, 45 degree mic.

 

[Mongillo19]

Can't believe I'm saying this, but......after seeing Rabea's video on the surprisingly considerable amount of changes/new cab/presets/etc. added to the X version of his Archetype, I'm seriously considering grabbing this at the current holiday sale price.



Shame the goofy preliminary marketing decided to communicate none of this, but all water under the bridge now.

I gave the demo a try and the synth is just loads of fun and inspiring imo

 

[mikah912]

I gave the demo a try and the synth is just loads of fun and inspiring imo

Just a crying shame it's all paywalled for QC owners. If I had access to synth sounds, ambient delays/reverbs and overall polish like that when I owned a QC...I'd probably still own a QC.

That's table stakes inclusion for a flagship modeler these days, and Neural won't have it for almost another year....and even then you gotta pay extra!

 

[Mongillo19]

Just a crying shame it's all paywalled for QC owners. If I had access to synth sounds, ambient delays/reverbs and overall polish like that when I owned a QC...I'd probably still own a QC.

That's table stakes inclusion for a flagship modeler these days, and Neural won't have it for almost another year....and even then you gotta pay extra!

Hard to say on the paywall. I think they had a synth block show up recently and I don't believe it was under "plugin" on the QC?

All speculation though.