What style of music are you thinking? Like….doom, sludge, etc.?Hi, QC owners.
Does someone has experience with Orange captures on the QC which aren't based on a Rockerverb or Terror? If so, could you maybe record me a little demo?
Thank you =)
More like stoner, desert rock. But doom and sludge are also fineWhat style of music are you thinking? Like….doom, sludge, etc.?
How are you monitoring things?More like stoner, desert rock. But doom and sludge are also fine![]()
Currently I am using a Fender FR12, a pair of Iloud micro pros and several headphones =)How are you monitoring things?
You had me at “FR12”Currently I am using a Fender FR12, a pair of Iloud micro pros and several headphones =)
These new reverbs are delicious.
Why all the hate?I hate to admit it, but that new Studio Plate reverb sounds incredible.
Why all the hate?
Let go of your anger, my friend. That path leads to the dark side.I still recall having my og QC and hopelessly waiting NDSP to fulfill their "aggressive updates plan".
..try.. to .. let it go.. just try. You can do it!I still recall having my og QC and hopelessly waiting NDSP to fulfill their "aggressive updates plan".
Let go of your anger, my friend. That path leads to the dark side.
Shit. The dark side IS cooler.
Not my take away in the first place, nor what I meant to imply with my Heineken post. I just thought it was a funny example of people getting worked up about other people's preferences.
WHICH, for the record, is not what I think Drew is doing anyway. I don't think he has any problem with "different strokes"; but rather he is concerned with the principle of it, the quality of the product (or lack thereof), and the ethical compass of the company. I just haven't come away with nearly as negative a picture overall as he has. Acknowledging that I started paying attention years later than he did, and then mostly paid attention by way of using a QC 1st hand - and ignoring Discord, Facebook, et al.
There's A LOT to unpack here, and I'm going to have to try to keep this relatively brief. Suffice to say, I absolutely get where you're coming from. The relationship between vendors and customers has changed profoundly in recent years, for a lot of different reasons - chief among them, the rate at which we consume products/ services and then move onto new ones almost immediately. This means the cost of satisfying a customer might not be offset by the value of that customer's loyalty. And yes, the fact that so many products are just vehicles for fluid, digital content that can be "spackled over" if early adopters squawk loud enough has disincentivized proper (costly) QA.Spot on overall, though at this point I would be dishonest if I didn’t say I’m a bit letdown at how much NDSP’s customers emboldened them to behave the way they have. I wish I could see all my deleted TGP posts from the launch period, where you’d see me saying repeatedly “I just don’t want to see the same thing happening to the gear world that happened to video games”; that phrase “Buy it for what it does now” did not exist before the QC and now it’s mentioned in *every* digital device launch and even Line 6 released the Stadium unfinished, this is the new normal. Awesome.
More so, they’ve been excused and given grace repeatedly, while people who simply repeat NDSP’s own words get insulted and shut down. The idea itself of “You’re entitled for expecting a company to live up to their own word” is such a reversal of principle to me that I can’t move past that point agreeably. And even worse, when I read shit like “That’s your fault for trusting a company to begin with” from PEOPLE THAT STILL GAVE THEM MONEY! That’s fucking *crazy* to me, doesn’t matter if it’s milk or a modeler, that’s such a crazy concept to me I can’t comprehend it, as if they’re more intelligent for giving money to a company knowing they’d likely be put off/let down/screwed over by said company down the road.
I seen it as ushering in the enshittification of all things customer-facing. There’s already been a MASSIVE drop in customer service post-covid, as if people got it in their heads during the years of shipping issues and back orders “It’s ok to pay for stuff but not get what we want, it is what it is” and I’ve seen how it’s caused companies to drop the ball, I’ve utilized our 10-day cancellation clause with vendor contracts more in the last 2 years than I did the previous 5 because this exact shit. I literally send emails that say “I am trying to pay your company a large sum of money for a service you provide, can you PLEASE call me back?” and I’ve *never* had to do that in over 20 years of utilizing vendors, I 100% believe it’s because the buying public has allowed this behavior.
Yes, the QC is in a good spot today, the fact that it took 5 years to get to this point negates any kind of victory laps for me, though, being that customers have had to beg and plead the entire time and it’s likely to be years away from even being what they said it’d be at launch. Until NDSP themselves comes out and says “Ok, we need a reset here. Everything we said before, forget it. This is where we’re at and this is where we’re going moving forward”, but I have a hunch the only thing we’ll see are victory laps for items that should have been done years ago, or releasing a new product and doing the “hardware team is different blah blah” as if these new products have not taken time and resources from the QC.
tl;dr- far less about the QC itself and entirely to do with principles surrounding giving a company money and how a company conducts business. Working in customer-facing positions for 30 years has given me a lot of perspective on customer care and I’m holding NDSP to the exact same standard I hold myself to when handling customers/tenants/guests.

It's a good unit for sure. I just think it works best as a standalone plug-and-play thing. The moment you want to use it with a valve amp, the cracks appear. Which is disappointing for me, but there you go.This is why I get off the forums from time to time, it just gets old as f**k
If i buy a thing and see that ..hmm.. this is not going right, I sell and move on
I did not sell as I liked the sounds I got out of my QC, and now it`s even better, with NAM sounds in my unit.
Easy to use, sounds good.. thats a keeper! And it still works as day one, nothing is broken, all is good