NDSP Quad Cortex

[Sedaxel]

This discussion keeps going in the NDSP Discord. There's a lot of confusion around the terms. Monophonic is literally "shift exactly one note at a time." Polyphonic is "shift several notes at a time."

Monophonic shifting glitches when you play more than one note because it's attempting to recognize the one single note that's supposed to be played and shift that. Polyphonic is still polyphonic even if it does a poor job like the QC pitch shifter. It can do very simple chords but it loses it's shit when presented with a minor chord, for example.

The question they should be asking is whether the upcoming plugin transpose is a better polyphonic shifter than the OG QC pitch shitter.

Edit: that last word is a typo, but I'm not fixing it because it might as well not be a typo.

A couple days ago I was with my buddy, trying a borrowed QC. He was testing the pitch shifter (I don´t know which of them) and We both were impressed of how good it tracked and worked. He played Moonlight Shadow, complete, chords and solo, one tone down. No noticeable artifacts. Last saturday he used that QC, with that pitch shifting in three songs, in a large auditorium in Madrid.

I don´t know... I find the QC quite good at it. Didn´t try many others, though.

 

[Mongillo19]

Asking if he would play a full show with the Quad and the completely baffled no had me lol

But to be fair it sounds like he wouldn't do any digital rig for a full show but it was just interesting to hear how he liked the QC and enough to perform with at a small level but a resounding No for anything larger.

Also of course credit to Steve Sterlacci for the video

 

[Sedaxel]

Asking if he would play a full show with the Quad and the completely baffled no had me lol

But to be fair it sounds like he wouldn't do any digital rig for a full show but it was just interesting to hear how he liked the QC and enough to perform with at a small level but a resounding No for anything larger.

Also of course credit to Steve Sterlacci for the video

Yeah, I can understand that. My buddy loves it as a life saver for certain fly gigs where it's very difficult to carry his amp. But he much prefer his Mark II and analog pedalboard. He's never going to buy the QC... But he's so glad he can borrow one from a friend when he needs it...

 

[Mongillo19]

Yeah, I can understand that. My buddy loves it as a life saver for certain fly gigs where it's very difficult to carry his amp. But he much prefer his Mark II and analog pedalboard. He's never going to buy the QC... But he's so glad he can borrow one from a friend when he needs it...

Right, and again I'm not trying to make this a knock on the QC, in fact I think it's a plus to see this publicity.

I just was taken by surprise at the straight up "No" right after talking highly of the QC lol but again I think it's just a tubez vs digital thing.

 

[Whizzinby]

SS is the f’ing man. And that’s a completely legit answer. If he is out doing the damn thing to a big audience with his crew why would he not want to break out the amps and cabs etc. For something like a clinic it’s just overkill.

 

[JiveTurkey]

SS is the f’ing man. And that’s a completely legit answer. If he is out doing the damn thing to a big audience with his crew why would he not want to break out the amps and cabs etc. For something like a clinic it’s just overkill.

#standwithSteve

 

[SeeD]

Dude have a signature Friedman Steve Stevens amplifier, that should say enough.

 

[GTR37]

Since now I am actually pondering this if they release a smaller quad mini or dual
Questions @Jarick and @Whizzinby if you only have one path which is 2 rows 16 blocks max , what kind of presets could you do ?
Would 2 amps , drive , wah
Delay , verb , flange, etc work on the one path ?
Without the global eq

Also how bad is the gap switching presets ?

 

[Mongillo19]

Since now I am actually pondering this if they release a smaller quad mini or dual
Questions @Jarick and @Whizzinby if you only have one path which is 2 rows 16 blocks max , what kind of presets could you do ?
Would 2 amps , drive , wah
Delay , verb , flange, etc work on the one path ?
Without the global eq

Also how bad is the gap switching presets ?

Tagging other QC users. Whizz doesn't have one anymore (not that he can't answer this of course)

@SeeD @mbenigni
@Jynx

 

[Aleksi]

Since now I am actually pondering this if they release a smaller quad mini or dual
Questions @Jarick and @Whizzinby if you only have one path which is 2 rows 16 blocks max , what kind of presets could you do ?
Would 2 amps , drive , wah
Delay , verb , flange, etc work on the one path ?
Without the global eq

Also how bad is the gap switching presets ?

I no longer have one, but I basically used it as a Dual Cortex. I remember having 2 amps, a drive, reverb, a delay or two and maybe even modulation on one row. Some amps take up a LOT of DSP. Preset changes are S L O W. It can take a few seconds depending on the preset.

 

[GTR37]

I no longer have one, but I basically used it as a Dual Cortex. I remember having 2 amps, a drive, reverb, a delay or two and maybe even modulation on one row. Some amps take up a LOT of DSP. Preset changes are S L O W. It can take a few seconds depending on the preset.

When you say row are you talking the path split or just one row
2 amps , wah, drive , delay , verb would be fine honestly
I know this is kind of a hard question to answer as it’s all just speculation since we don’t know what CPU they will use , hell if they used that new Sharc chip FAS mentioned was about as powerful as a Helix floor then that could greatly enhance what they could do with a single path

 

[pipelineaudio]

HP42 just did a video on this and the sycophants in the comments are bonkers! Like a total 1984 rewrite of history.

 

[GTR37]

HP42 just did a video on this and the sycophants in the comments are bonkers! Like a total 1984 rewrite of history.

I though a few sounds were great the 2203 and 5153 , Freidman comments not so much
When the first 30 were talking about taking a dump and filming in a washroom
I gave up on humanity

 

[Jynx]

Wut?!

 

[Mongillo19]

Wut?!

Rumors of a smaller/mini QC are afoot

 

[GTR37]

Any that are likely to be true?..id be delaying a purchase

It’s a strong possibility from a post where an NDSP employee gave a wink emoji in 2021 when someone asked about a smaller QC
To their giant soon sign at Namm . And recent focus group I was part of
I doubt they will release before plug in compatibility though as QC owners would have there head

 

[Mongillo19]

Any that are likely to be true?..id be delaying a purchase

I have no insight but there are essentially confirmed sources that something is coming. Is it a QC mini, can't say for certain, but it is a smaller unit of sorts.

Could be a tuner for all I know

 

[GTR37]

I have no insight but there are essentially confirmed sources that something is coming. Is it a QC mini, can't say for certain, but it is a smaller unit of sorts.

Could be a tuner for all I know

Always trust in the Wookie

 

[Jarick]

Since now I am actually pondering this if they release a smaller quad mini or dual
Questions @Jarick and @Whizzinby if you only have one path which is 2 rows 16 blocks max , what kind of presets could you do ?
Would 2 amps , drive , wah
Delay , verb , flange, etc work on the one path ?
Without the global eq

Also how bad is the gap switching presets ?

I just made a preset with two amps, two cabs, two reverbs, OD, comp, chorus, and delay on a single path. I can do two amps with a single cab, reverb, flanger, delay, chorus, OD, comp, and wah on a single path with a little CPU room as well.

Gap between presets is not quick enough IMO to change within a song. It's not gapless for sure but it's not awful.

 

[GTR37]

I just made a preset with two amps, two cabs, two reverbs, OD, comp, chorus, and delay on a single path. I can do two amps with a single cab, reverb, flanger, delay, chorus, OD, comp, and wah on a single path with a little CPU room as well.

Gap between presets is not quick enough IMO to change within a song. It's not gapless for sure but it's not awful.

That’s really cool thanks for doing that
So it looks like around 10 blocks of the 16 on 1 path you can use if you choose 2 amps give or take if your effect are less like eq or gate
That’s a good starting point