NAM support announced by Fractal Audio

White-box modeling will still be the primary focus. NAM will be included …

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I would go as far to say that G66 are in the top 10 support experiences I've ever had.

Yes the unit is expensive. I sometimes look at my Axe III and think to myself "I don't even use 10% of you" and think about selling it. But the reality is, I've long since paid it off, and it is just a cool device to have around for a ton of reasons.

These things ebb and flow with me - sometimes I'm 90% modeller, and sometimes I'm 90% valve amps. Just depends.

I will say that money being no object, I will have a Helix Stadium alongside the Axe III.
Agreed. I already have an FM9T, a TMP, a GT-1000CORE, an ACS-1, an IR-2, an IR-200, a Tonex (which is for sale, but still), and an AmpliFirebox Mk II. And assuming my work situation is sorted by January 1st (likely), I will get a Stadium as well. I really don't see things in terms of 'better.' It's all different approaches that, for me at least, lead to different and complimentary results. I also admit that I can afford it, and this is my only hobby other than books and records that costs any money at all. I don't expect everyone to look at it the way I do.
 
That's pretty interesting. You'd think Axe-Fx 3 would have ample processing power for that.
Yeah I thought so too but idk, when was the last time fractal added an entirely new block? I can't think of one but I'm not a historian on this stuff

Also, you have to think that will be a selling point to some for Gen IV to switch from the III
 
That's pretty interesting. You'd think Axe-Fx 3 would have ample processing power for that.
Yes, you'd think it'd be viable, especially if they did something like put a usage requirement like you can only place a NAM block or an amp block in a preset but not both. It might not have much storage for caps, though.
 
Yes, you'd think it'd be viable, especially if they did something like put a usage requirement like you can only place a NAM block or an amp block in a preset but not both. It might not have much storage for caps, though.

I thought the exact same. If they can't store a block library on the device, they likely don't have storage for NAM and Dynacabs and factory cabs. And Cliff refuses to alter either of the latter two.
 
I thought the exact same. If they can't store a block library on the device, they likely don't have storage for NAM and Dynacabs and factory cabs. And Cliff refuses to alter either of the latter two.

Altering something like that would be a support or logistical nightmare, most likely because the only way to do that would be jettisoning some dynacabs or other onboard stuff which absolutely would never happen. If you provided extra features to some units that had more non-volatile memory (Axe Fx III mk 2 and Turbo units IIRC), can you create a situation where people are begging for this on Mark 1 units around the clock, not to mention asking for when it's going to get ported to fm3 and fm9 the second something is talked about. We've seen this with so many things over the years.
 
That's pretty interesting. You'd think Axe-Fx 3 would have ample processing power for that.

But how much would be left over for other things?

The Stadium has a GPU, presumably to facilitate an inference engine for capture playback. Maybe the AxeFX IV will have one as well.
 
The Stadium has a GPU, presumably to facilitate an inference engine for capture playback.

At least on "normal" computers, NAM (and also Tonex) playback doesn't profit from a fast GPU (only the training process does, if you do it locally).
 
At least on "normal" computers, NAM (and also Tonex) playback doesn't profit from a fast GPU (only the training process does, if you do it locally).

An inference engine at playback time can definitely benefit from a GPU, but NAM was specifically designed not require that. In a dedicated modeling device like the Stadium or AxeFX IV though, the calculus about whether a GPU would be beneficial or not is quite different than in a plugin intended to run on a variety of computers.
 
This is interesting and I don't quite understand why they would allow NAM to run on their platform.
Seems like there will be TONS of "cheaper" hardware units coming out that will run NAM and presumably lots of them will have a better UI.
I'm thinking that it's about to become a very competitive space.
Fractal stuff is normally expensive, and it just seems like a weird choice to even attempt to get into that market at all.
 
This is interesting and I don't quite understand why they would allow NAM to run on their platform.
Seems like there will be TONS of "cheaper" hardware units coming out that will run NAM and presumably lots of them will have a better UI.
I'm thinking that it's about to become a very competitive space.
Fractal stuff is normally expensive, and it just seems like a weird choice to even attempt to get into that market at all.
They’re not “getting into a market.” They’re adding a feature. I don’t expect this addition to change their philosophy or overall approach. It’s just a pacifier.
 
Seems like there will be TONS of "cheaper" hardware units coming out that will run NAM and presumably lots of them will have a better UI.
NAM source code has been publicly available for several years now. How many cheap hardware units do you see that run NAM directly?
 
They’re not “getting into a market.” They’re adding a feature. I don’t expect this addition to change their philosophy or overall approach. It’s just a pacifier.
That makes more sense if its just a feature. Didn't realize that is what they are going for
 
This is interesting and I don't quite understand why they would allow NAM to run on their platform.
Seems like there will be TONS of "cheaper" hardware units coming out that will run NAM and presumably lots of them will have a better UI.
I'm thinking that it's about to become a very competitive space.
Fractal stuff is normally expensive, and it just seems like a weird choice to even attempt to get into that market at all.
Most units will support some kind of profiling. Fractal sitting that one out entirely seems like an unwise move. Many people want captures, and some enjoy both modelling and captures.
 
Not many? How about zero if you consider "cheap" to be less than $500. I think you underestimate what's required to play NAM captures.
Not going back and forth. I did say there will be cheaper hardware units running NAM that will likely come out in the future. I believe that. Pick apart posts however you feel like
 
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