Midi coming to UAFX pedals

[2112]

Updated my Golden this morning. It sounds very good. Some of the choices UA have made are truly baffling with the way this is implemented. PC/CC on different midi channels?!

 

[Sascha Franck]

You mean "save = overwrite preset"?

Sure. Or allow them to use a "save as" button combination in addition which would then trigger the current behaviour. Or the other way around, doesn't really matter - there should be a way to just save things as you usually save things.

 

[ragingplatypi]

Maybe it’s recency bias of just watching Frankenstein, but UA seems to have a mad scientist vibe going on here.

 

[laxu]

Sure. Or allow them to use a "save as" button combination in addition which would then trigger the current behaviour. Or the other way around, doesn't really matter - there should be a way to just save things as you usually save things.

The way some MIDI capable pedals work is that you either use an editor to copy presets to another slot, or they can accept a MIDI message on save to tell which slot to save. So e.g if you want to copy preset slot 4's preset to slot 6, you'd activate slot 4, press the footswitch that starts the store function, then send MIDI CC 6 (or 5 if it's 0-based) to indicate slot 6.

E.g Strymon uses that pattern so if you want to save your preset, you hold the footswitch that activates the store function, then press it again to save in the current slot (overwrite), or send a MIDI message for a different slot.

 

[Sascha Franck]

E.g Strymon uses that pattern so if you want to save your preset, you hold the footswitch that activates the store function, then press it again to save in the current slot (overwrite), or send a MIDI message for a different slot.

I think this is how it works on the Marshall JVM410 models, too (IIRC), or at least very similar.
And it's quite logical.

 

[BenIfin]

If you have more than 1 UA Pedal there's no reason why a good USB Hub from the MC6 Pro with unique Midi Channels for each pedals PC / CC should not work.

In fact I cant think of any reasons it wouldn't t work ?

But I'd ask on the MStar Forum first - the advice there from users and MS staff is as good as it gets ie: brilliant :)

 

[paisleywookiee]

Updated my Golden this morning. It sounds very good. Some of the choices UA have made are truly baffling with the way this is implemented. PC/CC on different midi channels?!

 

[Tito83]

Updated my Golden this morning. It sounds very good. Some of the choices UA have made are truly baffling with the way this is implemented. PC/CC on different midi channels?!

From factory it's set for omni, so that's probably what's happening. You have to change it in the app to the channel you want to use.

 

[Whizzinby]

Watching the Morningstar video..that save functionality seems really dumb. Every time you store the preset, instead of overwriting the current one it will create a new preset and automatically assign it to that PC slot. This will mean that for every stored tweak you start piling up unwanted presets visible in your mobile app.

It doesn't even seem to use the existing preset name for these. In the video the user saves a preset called "Blended rocks" and the new preset becomes "Lion 2", basically "pedal name + running number". Now imagine that you try to work with your pedal to build a set of presets for your live setup. By the time you are done, you'd likely have presets "Lion 2", "Lion 3", and "Lion 4". How do you know what each preset was based on, what it was supposed to do? You'd have to have the app open at all times to see this, rename those presets as you complete them or rely on your MIDI controller for preset naming. At minimum it should call the preset "Blended rocks 2" so you always have a reference to its starting point.

 

[metropolis_4]

I remember when I first got my Apollo interface I was shocked there was no way to use MIDI to control anything in it. At the time, UA fans told me it was because MIDI isn’t necessary.

All these years later it sounds like UA is just learning how MIDI works for the first time

 

[JiveTurkey]

Stupid

 

[Jarick]

I’ll have to update my ox stomp and see how that does.

Hopefully they work on a computer editor next.

 

[BenIfin]

Just got the "official" email from UA.

" Access 4 stored User Preset to switch between "

Wow .... so they finally implement this 3 1/2 years after release and allow you to have 4 presets ?

UA just never stop being UA !

 

[Jarick]

Well I'm trying to update but the UA Connect app is stock in an endless refresh loop despite restarting several times.

Neck and neck with IK for just plain terrible software design.

 

[dk_ace]

Just got the "official" email from UA.

" Access 4 stored User Preset to switch between "

Wow .... so they finally implement this 3 1/2 years after release and allow you to have 4 presets ?

UA just never stop being UA !

Everything I’ve seen including the Santiago video says 127 presets.

 

[dk_ace]

I never even considered these due to the lack of midi presets. But if I were going to create a rig with a controller and individual pedals now, somewhere between 1 and 5 of these would be sure to make it on the board.

I don’t care about user IRs as long as it has some good cab sounds in it which their amp pedals all do.

D

 

[dk_ace]

PC/CC on different midi channels?!

That’s either incorrect, brilliant in ways that are going to slowly sink in with us, or mind blowingly stupid. I’m not sure which yet…

I would hope that it’s optionally on separate channels and not fixed to be on different channels.

D

 

[jmcecil]

I want to bitch about how 1990s this all is, but hey I have MIDI now .. well as soon as I buy a MIDI to USB dongle and a few extra USB A->C cables. But if this makes the damned things pedal board viable, I'll try to refrain from too much sarcasm. Especially considering they did it within the current architecture.

 

[BenIfin]

I want to bitch about how 1990s this all is, but hey I have MIDI now .. well as soon as I buy a MIDI to USB dongle and a few extra USB A->C cables. But if this makes the damned things pedal board viable, I'll try to refrain from too much sarcasm. Especially considering they did it within the current architecture.

Hey !

Not wanting to be a potential Debbie Downer .... but ^this^ will not work unless it has a USB Host built in.

You will need something like this => https://www.behringturd.com/product.html?modelCode=0716-AAH or this => https://www.doremidi.cn/h-pd-36.html

This forum automatically changes the word "B" brand name to "Behringturd" so just replace the "Behringturd" in the link above with the correct "B" brand name in the link and it will take you to the site :)

I have the DoreMidi unit and it works perfectly f.w.i.w as I'm sure the "B" brand one will too.

Ben

 

[JiveTurkey]

So "it has midi capability" but you have to buy 5 pieces of external hardware to make midi work? Perfect.