Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Sascha Franck]

I recently checked QC's UI, which has knobs, and I must say that while I find the knobs better looking, the sliders make more sense to me in a touchscreen, UX wise

On a touchscreen, sliders are better. You just get better information about what you're doing.

 

[molul]

I kinda get this too… I mean the screen s great from the looks of it but why all the “old helix amps and effects”? If this is a supposedly new engine?

Anyway, to reply to your question (although it's been replied several times in this thread):

-All the old effects and amps are good to great
-You will be able to import OG Helix presets to Stadium
-Agoura amps list will increase over the next years
-A full list of new amps and effects would take time to build, so we would get the Stadium much later
-Stadium's development time hasn't only been spent on the Agoura amps: brand new UI with way more stuff than the current one, Showcase, Proxy... We get the MVP now, and like in the last 10 years with OG Helix, more stuff will come with updates

 

[laxu]

Or you could duct tape a banana-shaped LEGO to a wall and call it "Line 6 Plantainater."

You should make that model. Make it a cross between Placater and Mandarin.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You should make that model. Make it a cross between Placater and Mandarin.

Would definitely look great on that touchscreen.

 

[DanRad]

I kinda get this too… I mean the screen s great from the looks of it but why all the “old helix amps and effects”? If this is a supposedly new engine?

It's really hard to believe there's no eyeroll reaction available.

I have to actually respond to the post to do this:

 

[EOengineer]

All the talk about Agoura and I’m realizing I haven’t paid much attention to the cabs. Obviously there’s a new UI driving it, but is there a new cab engine?

I’m imaging that the cab engine added in Helix FW 3.5 could have been ported over from the new system to address what was probably the biggest Achilles heel in Helix at the time. My guess is it’s the same engine.

 

[HotRats]

All the talk about Agoura and I’m realizing I haven’t paid much attention to the cabs. Obviously there’s a new UI driving it, but is there a new cab engine?

I’m imaging that the cab engine added in Helix FW 3.5 could have been ported over from the new system to address what was probably the biggest Achilles heel in Helix at the time. My guess is it’s the same engine.

Yes, cabs seems to be the same "new cabs" and there's also the impedance curve thing, the automatic link between cab and Agoura amps.

I bet that OG helix has been the test bench for Stadium cabs, making Helix users happy while developing Stadium at the same time.

 

[GTR37]

You should make that model. Make it a cross between Placater and Mandarin.

A Plantain

 

[Lysander]

Said it before and I'll say it again: that touchscreen looks incredible.

 

[ragingplatypi]

I recently checked QC's UI, which has knobs, and I must say that while I find the knobs better looking, the sliders make more sense to me in a touchscreen, UX wise

I actually agree with you. I was just having a laugh.

However I do still dislike the sliders on HX Edit.

 

[Sascha Franck]

However I do still dislike the sliders on HX Edit.

Yeah, they're horrible. Once you operate things with a mouse (and even more so a scrollwheel), knobs are a whole lot better and wasting less space.

 

[molul]

Yeah, they're horrible. Once you operate things with a mouse (and even more so a scrollwheel), knobs are a whole lot better and wasting less space.

It would be nice having an option to switch between them in Native, but I'm sure that would open the door to many people asking "why not in the hardware?".

 

[Sascha Franck]

Btw, I really want a Lego amp model. No idea what it should sound like, but I'd love the looks. And as there'd likely be copyright issues, it could be called "Clickstoner" or so.
Could as well be a fuzz box - one that'd finally work well in a buffered, digital enviroment (the best ones I know of are the ones in Amplitube, just that they're not exactly flexible, they all sound very same-ish, but their clean-up is decent).

 

[banned]

Said it before and I'll say it again: that touchscreen looks incredible.

I thought I wouldn't care for the graphics and stuff....but I change my mind. I do like seeing something that looks like the actual pedal.

 

[GuitarGorilla]

I thought I wouldn't care for the graphics and stuff....but I change my mind. I do like seeing something that looks like the actual pedal.

I feel the same. One of the only things I didn't love in switching from NDSP plugins to the QC was not being able to look at the pictures of the amps/pedals.

 

[Aleksi]

That touch screen demo is the first Stadium video I've watched. It looks incredibly good! Graphics don't look cheap like on competing devices. But are they seriously using the same super slippery knobs? I hope they at least improve the acceleration so I don't have to rotate the encoder 12 million times to go from min to max value

They already have some of the best fx in all-in-one devices. I DGAF about amp modeling anymore however, so I'll wait to see what else they have coming.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I hope they at least improve the acceleration so I don't have to rotate the encoder 12 million times to go from min to max value

You don't have to. They behave pretty much like analog knobs ever since an update (don't remember which one it was). And I think it's been overdone because now finer adjustments are pretty fiddly. I think there should be some middle ground. Or an acceleration feature. Possibly switchable in the global preferences.

 

[Digital Igloo]

That touch screen demo is the first Stadium video I've watched. It looks incredibly good! Graphics don't look cheap like on competing devices. But are they seriously using the same super slippery knobs? I hope they at least improve the acceleration so I don't have to rotate the encoder 12 million times to go from min to max value

Knob ballistics have been drastically improved.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Knob ballistics have been drastically improved.

We need to have a talk!
(Or are you talking about Stadium?)

 

[Velvet Skin Underarm]

Knob ballistics have been drastically improved.

I just had this same talk with my wife last night.