Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Karl Houseknecht]

we pulled it out at the last second because we wanted something better.

 

[HomespunEffects]

Have any of the dealers actually been able to try the Helix Stadium? They’re telling me things but I want to know if they’re just blowing hype smoked to my bootyhole.

Have the big names actually had their hands on these units?

 

[timbuck3]

I reckon you'll love it, the helix stuff today is top tier and I'm buying the hype that Agoura is Fractal level good. You're going to get 10+ years of updates which is something cool to look forward to when they drop. Captures are coming so that's going to open up a whole other world. Showcase is being built out which is pretty cool for jam tracks all in the one unit. Obviously we're going to see more and more amps and pedal fx, it's just a winner from all angles for a day1 purchase imo. Fractal and Line6 are probably the safest bets when it comes to firmware updates, I guess they've pretty much been in the game the longest and have a proven track record.

Buy once cry once

I was just really torn between the regular and the xl. I hope the scribble strips are clear and the pedal is well balanced and heavy duty. Wouldn’t want to step on it and have the Inuit tip to the right

 

[Mongillo19]

Have any of the dealers actually been able to try the Helix Stadium? They’re telling me things but I want to know if they’re just blowing hype smoked to my bootyhole.

Have the big names actually had their hands on these units?

What are they telling you

 

[ChordInversion]

Here's the rub. Once you're in all-new-flagship-multieffects-platform territory, there may be 1000 or more infrastructure projects to finish that people don't see and another 1000 DSP and feature projects that people do see. One goal of Helix was to—eventually—improve absolutely everything about HD500X (which I'd argue we did in spades, except for maybe size, weight, and lack of vocoder). A goal of Stadium is to—eventually—improve absolutely everything about Helix Floor.

The other trick is that Line 6 doesn't have a Cliff Chase. We don't have someone who can seemingly do anything at the drop of a hat. If we want to do Proxy and an all new looping engine, we can't do them at the same time because the same engineers who are experts at LSTM, GRU, and Wavenet are also the in-house experts at building cool new looping capabilities. So one of those things simply has to wait until the other is finished.

It's one thing to ask if one's pet feature or model (out of 1000) will ever make it into said platform. It's another thing to act all flabbergasted that one's pet feature or model (out of 1000) wasn't specifically announced amongst the dozens of others, months before any boxes actually ship... as if Line 6 is suddenly gonna switch gears and decide to not improve the platform over many years. (Including reverbs.)

I'm not suggesting you believe this, Tito, but some people honestly believe that Helix 3.80 should've been what we delivered back in 2015. And some people today believe that Stadium 5.0 or whatever is what we should be delivering on day one this fall. Those people are impossibly out of touch with how any tech business works.

It's almost as though resources are finite. Go figure!

All any company can do is prioritize in good faith and deliver as well as they can. People need to acknowledge the reality of finite resources, and not expect everything to arrive all at once on day one.

 

[ispunk]

Please let the old Helix models play the captures!

 

[HomespunEffects]

What are they telling you

That they played them. That they are actually amazing. That they will blow Tonex away.

That’s the converters will outclass the budget interfaces but won’t get close to the RME Babyface Pro FS.

 

[HomespunEffects]

@Digital Igloo said in the presentation that the converters are better than interfaces costing thousands. I was just wondering about that and I’m thinking the reps are making assumptions. See, i was going to order a RME Babyface but that $1000 can go on the Helix Stadium XL.

 

[sashimi]

Lol. Sales dudes. I really doubt any of them have played it yet (correct me if I’m wrong) probably just watched the same line 6 videos we all did. They’ll say whatever it takes, no problems lying to make a sale, and somehow are generally less knowledgeable than I am about whatever it is I’m shopping for. Its like, just shut up and take my order when I’m ready, guy.

 

[LP59]

Lol. Sales dudes. I really doubt any of them have played it yet (correct me if I’m wrong) probably just watched the same line 6 videos we all did. They’ll say whatever it takes, no problems lying to make a sale, and somehow are generally less knowledgeable than I am about whatever it is I’m shopping for. Its like, just shut up and take my order when I’m ready, guy.

Line6 made sure sales reps, especially from SW, got a chance to play through the Stadium at the event. I'm sure it was a tightly controlled situation, but they are not lying.

 

[sashimi]

Line6 made sure sales reps, especially from SW, got a chance to play through the Stadium at the event. I'm sure it was a tightly controlled situation, but they are not lying.

Well that’s good, I take back part of what I said, but not all of it

 

[guyonthefox]

@Digital Igloo Will the clips that are on a preset be transferable to another preset (not just if I resave/rename?

 

[JiveTurkey]

NO WAY A SALESMAN WOULD LIE!

 

[timbuck3]

That they played them. That they are actually amazing. That they will blow Tonex away.

That’s the converters will outclass the budget interfaces but won’t get close to the RME Babyface Pro FS.

I wish the rear jacks has metal jacks vs plastic ones as would be more pro feeling but maybe it would cause the price to be higher

 

[timbuck3]

Line6 made sure sales reps, especially from SW, got a chance to play through the Stadium at the event. I'm sure it was a tightly controlled situation, but they are not lying.

Hopefully some skeptical line6 reviewers will put it thru its paces and have more balanced reviews… like myself if I got one.. lol

 

[Mongillo19]

like myself if I got one

IF???

don't back out now Tim

It's FM9 all over again

 

[GTR37]

Just needs to be updated to "Finally Bought Shit" or "I Bought Shit". An official poll might be in order

I think in the interim it should updated to be pre ordered shit @DrewJD82

 

[GTR37]

I was just really torn between the regular and the xl. I hope the scribble strips are clear and the pedal is well balanced and heavy duty. Wouldn’t want to step on it and have the Inuit tip to the right

Never have the Inuit tip to the right that’s a problem
Tip to the north sure but if they tip right you’ll throw off the entire arctic ecosystem

 

[mikah912]

Please let the old Helix models play the captures!

I'm guessing that's a no given how heavily cloud-integrated they say the Proxy process is.

That being said, YOU are the number one third-party guy I'm looking forward to getting involved in Proxy captures.

You'll have a repeat customer on day one.