Line 6 Helix Stadium

In the same way that Fractal has no interest in chasing the user experience of Helix Stadium, I don't think Line6 has any interest in chasing the minute detail control that Fractal offers. For people who want access to 200 parameters in the amp block, or want to design feedback loops in their presets, or design complicated envelopes and pedal response curves, Fractal will still be the modeler of choice. Plus, there will always be people who simply prefer Fractal's amp modeling and don't care about user experience. There aren't a lot of those people out there, but there are enough to keep Fractal going.

Yeah, I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head.
I do still think FAS would profit from a more "accessible" UI, though. If I ever were to buy one of their units, at that price it certainly better had an excellent onboard UI.
 
God I really hope Line 6 changed their approach to fixing and tweaking released/existing models. The old "we don't want to accidentaly change the sound or ruin presets" doesn't hold a candle and never did.
If the model is found to be less than accurate or missing features, bright caps, or whatever, for the love of god, fix it, no bs this time.

Clifford changes his models on a weekly basis, no one ever bitched about it for too long.

Many people bitch about Fractal intentionally breaking presets. It can be a pain to have to redo your presets just to get the latest bug fixes or new effects.

The other extreme of a huge proliferation of models isn't good either, but there's a middle path where errors are fixed in the existing models, but occasional design changes to the models are done by introducing new models.
 
Agreed. It was/is an easy work around. Just delete the Amp block, save the preset as a new name, re-open and re-add the Amp block - done.

But annoying to have to do.
A modeler is a computer, you do whatever you need to do to to keep the latest and greatest development in modeling while keeping the old models available for people who want them on the same hardware.
Even something simple like keeping multiple versions of the same model will make everyone happy.
If you like the old broken v0.001 model from 2009 keep using that if it's still offered.
Another solution is a file for each model that a user can keep on his computer and upload at any time, L6 can even sell these files, it's like a capture but for a complete model, ala 'gear but not physical'.
No charge.
 
Fractal can't and they won't create something comparable. They know their lane and they'll stay in it. That lane is quality amp modeling and effects. User experience will never be a strong suit for them. Not only do they not have expertise in that area, they have no interest in it. There's a niche for what they do well and they'll be ok. But it will become just that, a niche.
There's no longer as big a "I use Fractal because it's simply better than the competition for amps and fx modeling" incentive. Cheap capture boxes are nipping at the heels for amps, cheap multifx are at "these fx are pretty solid!" level for effects now, and I expect Helix Stadium will raise its delay/reverb/pitch/mod effects quality to Fractal level. Amps will probably take a bit longer since Fractal has over 100 unique amps (if we consider all the channels and mode models as one amp).

Fractal's big issue for all its products to date has been usability, so that's the #1 issue they need to solve for a next gen. They need at minimum an onboard user interface as good as Axe-Edit.

While Line6 has gone above and beyond with their "virtual roadies" in the Showcase system etc, I still think Fractal needs to go back to the drawing board after this announcement.

Line6 have put a lot of work into reducing the barrier to entry to modelers:
  • Sound clips for presets so you can understand what it is meant for. This has been a big issue with lots of user and factory presets, having a reference will help a lot. I can see people saying "Hey, I made this preset based on what you are looking for, check my clip and see what you think!" on forums and FB groups because it seems like it's just very easy to do.
  • Ability to easily add a sound clip to help you dial in the sound. Looper blocks can do this now but it seems Line6 has made this really straightforward where it goes from "pull up the looper controls" to "just hit record".
  • Fingerpaint quick tone adjustments, that can even be user defined no less! This is probably my favorite new feature.
  • Integrated parameter manual on-unit.
  • Hype knob to take you from "accurate" to "sounds nicer to my ear". This can be a quick route to "behaves how I think it should sound".
  • Due to the increased number of footswitches even on the smaller non-XL model, access to all your favorite blocks is just a finger tap away.
Ok, so Fractal might focus their product for the professionals only. The only things they truly need from that list are quick access to blocks (hardware design), and the integrated manual, which has been requested at least for Axe-Edit years ago. But people will appreciate things that make it easier to play with sounds whether you are a seasoned pro or a newcomer.

I expect Fractal's wishlists for their next gen product will have a number of "hey Helix Stadium has this cool feature, can you do something like that?" requests.

I just have a hard time finding the unique selling point that would make me say "You know what, I'll go for the Axe-Fx IV instead of the Helix Stadium". I hope Fractal surprises us.
 
Has anyone said

“Gapless spillover trails bla bla switch between presets” yet
They already solved that on HX, but allowing you to sacrifice a DSP to do it. If they offer it on Stadium (I'm not keen on the name tbh! That's the only thing I'm not!) then that'd be great. I did use it that way too, for quite some time. But in the end, I didn't like giving up the power!

Do you feel kinda dirty now?
Always.
 
I'm handing some computers back today at HQ; it is my last day. I might go and see if the Headrush team spend the day in the cry room.


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