Line 6 Helix Stadium

I guess the “Line 6 Plectoneme Stadium” name didn’t make the cut with focus groups. Likely a different market segment needed.

I might have gone with Plectron… 😁
 
We've been there for a couple of years now. It's just been a waiting game to see who finally understands this. It was never going to be Fractal.

I'd argue Line 6 is the only company which truly gets it these days: there's more to usability than fancy graphics and rotary encoders everywhere.

One of the reasons Helix had such a long shelf life is that it's just a joy to use.
 
From a pure business perspective, if a top tier company brings NAM compatibility (full NAM, because crippled versions would let them in a weak position), then they are setting their amp tones to the same bar that any other company, expensive or cheap, can have.
If the "bar" of their proprietary capturing engine is set lower than NAM, they can only set it higher by supporting it.
If it is set higher there's nothing to lose for them cuz users will prefer the better solution anyway.
So I really don't see the issue.

Honestly, I don't want to see NAM everywhere. I want to see different solutions, I want to see a race and improvements. NAM is the present, but I don't see it being the future because there are things to improve. And resources from companies can materialize those improvements.
NAM support doesn't stop the race for improvement, actually if it's a feature that will help them sell more units, it's something that can fund and push further that race. NAM isn't perfect either.

Improvement isn't only about quality anyway, also having an industry standard is an improvement for usability.
Just imagine all modelers only supporting proprietary cab formats and not allowing to import wav IRs: people that play with more than one platform would be forced to search, buy and use different IRs for each of them, or 3rd party producers would need to do double/quadruple work to offer their IRs for more than one platform.
Having a universal format for IRs didn't stop companies from introducing dyna-cabs and similar, for example, or to sell their own cab packs in proprietary formats.

Being able to load your tone on the hardware of your choice is a huge improvement imho and I bet this will expand to effects in the near future as well. Companies can still add value to their hardware by making their platform-specific content which can still be higher-quality or have more features than a capture.
 
Looks like it does in versatility, user experience and efficiency. The 16 guitar amps thing is super temporary.
100% and they are also giving themselves a long lead team like December for the base model , it will likely be well beyond the 16 at launch I suspect
 
+1 on the plugin. It was the only reason I bought an HX stomp to begin with

I'm gonna say it; as epic as this announcement is, I don't like the name. Stadium? Stadium XL? What's the Stomp and Stomp XL replacements going to be called, Helix Backyard BBQ and Helix Frat Party?

Alright, that's as much negativity as I can muster on this release.
I keep thinking of “Pokemon Stadium” whenever I read it. Not my favourite name, don’t think I’ll come around to it. Not overly keen on the name Agoura, or the sheep graphics either but it’s all pretty minor stuff that doesn’t matter. and Hype seems like something I’m never going to use, but at least irs implemented in a way that it doesn’t have to be intrusive or mess up perfectly good models.

I hope those angled 3D views get swapped for ones that are facing straight and more flat though. That had me scratching my head the more I saw it. I am really digging the more realistic less cheesy cartoon graphics though, huge step in the right direction.
 
I guess not. But unless Yamaha has taken over, there’s no way in hell that I’m putting 2K+ in to a brand like Line 6.

But all the fans can rejoice. They have a new platform for the next decade.
Just curious, and don't take this as an attack, but what's wrong with Line6 brand?

They keep working hard on improving their stuff, they've proven to support their products for many years, they listen to the community, today they also mind-blowingly innovated...

What would it take for you to have a better perception of Line6 nowadays?

If this new flagship proves to have the same quality as current Fractal flagship, I don't see where the problem would be. I mean, a company can be considered worse than other, but once they step up their game and make a product as good as any other previously considered better one, then there's the end of the comparison.

We still have to see and hear how this Stadium is once it's available, but I'd say today they made quite a jump to the top.
 
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If the "bar" of their proprietary capturing engine is set lower than NAM, they can only set it higher by supporting it.
If it is set higher there's nothing to lose for them cuz users will prefer the better solution anyway.
So I really don't see the issue.


NAM support doesn't stop the race for improvement, actually if it's a feature that will help them sell more units, it's something that can fund and push further that race. NAM isn't perfect either.

Improvement isn't only about quality anyway, also having an industry standard is an improvement for usability.
Just imagine all modelers only supporting proprietary cab formats and not allowing to import wav IRs: people that play with more than one platform would be forced to search, buy and use different IRs for each of them, or 3rd party producers would need to do double/quadruple work to offer their IRs for more than one platform.
Having a universal format for IRs didn't stop companies from introducing dyna-cabs and similar, for example, or to sell their own cab packs in proprietary formats.

Being able to load your tone on the hardware of your choice is a huge improvement imho and I bet this will expand to effects in the near future as well. Companies can still add value to their hardware by making their platform-specific content which can still be higher-quality or have more features than a capture.

this

everything I've tried to say and more, and better worded
 
I'm gonna say it; as epic as this announcement is, I don't like the name. Stadium? Stadium XL? What's the Stomp and Stomp XL replacements going to be called, Helix Backyard BBQ and Helix Frat Party?

Alright, that's as much negativity as I can muster on this release.
Stadium S and XS 😆
 
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