Line 6 Helix Stadium

[Vic Winters]

The regular Helix Stadium is probably going to be their "rack model".

-Small enough to fit on a rack shelf if you want to tuck it away like people do with the QC
-No scribble strips or on-board expression which serve no purpose in a rack
-Nexus port I/O (as well as MIDI and USB ports) opens the possibility for controlling it with a peripheral devices (updated Helix Control maybe?)

 

[Mongillo19]

Yeah from what I've gathered from Ben and Eric, the Helix Rack did not sell well at all compared to the other units

 

[ian_dissonance]

I think that L6 has catered to the "I play around in my basement" crowd for most of its history. The only market for a rack version is live performance. Since this is my primary use, the lack of a rack + foot controller model would likely prevent me from changing my rig no matter how many other bells and whistles the Stadium had.

Still, the percentage of people that ACTUALLY gig their equipment is likely small, so this might make sense.

Anecdotally, I’ve seen just as many if not more “racked” floorboards with external controllers at shows between local level and 3-5k venues in the last couple of years. The non-XL version would probably take up less space on a drawer than an AFXIII or a Kemper.

 

[mikah912]

The original POD (and ampfarm, same modeling) are on TONS of major label releases from that era.

Shhhhhh! Don't spoil his hyperbole party.

 

[ian_dissonance]

The original POD (and ampfarm, same modeling) are on TONS of major label releases from that era.

I was watching production videos for songs released in the last couple of years using Amp Farm into IRs.

 

[banned]

Shhhhhh! Don't spoil his hyperbole party.

I believe Eagle's at this party as well. It's just the two of them.

 

[Los-D]

Still catching up, but I would recommend “Hx Litigator” or “Litigator (Hx)”

 

[mikah912]

Still catching up, but I would recommend “Hx Litigator” or “Litigator (Hx)”

Honestly, I think they should just color-code the Agoura amps differently.

 

[EOengineer]

Shhhhhh! Don't spoil his hyperbole party.

I was watching production videos for songs released in the last couple of years using Amp Farm into IRs.

Yeah I don’t really get the point of the weird revisionism there. The POD was released in 1996. It’s almost universally known as the first widely successful digital modeling product. It has its limits and we can see them more clearly now because of the progress that has been made, as will be the case in 30 years when discussing current Helix or Fractal products.

 

[Mongillo19]

Yeah I don’t really get the point of the weird revisionism there. The POD was released in 1996. It’s almost universally known as the first widely successful digital modeling product. It has its limits and we can see them more clearly now because of the progress that has been made, as will be the case in 30 years when discussing current Helix or Fractal products.

Man, it's hard to keep you and OneEng sperate in my brain I know the usernames aren't that similar but....

 

[EOengineer]

Man, it's hard to keep you and OneEng sperate in my brain I know the usernames aren't that similar but....

I got here first and subscribe to Highlander rules. If I decapitate him I get his powers.

 

[GTR37]

Yeah from what I've gathered from Ben and Eric, the Helix Rack did not sell well at all compared to the other units

If I am betting the HX stadium Native and Stompium are probably next on the list in the 3 year plan

 

[HotRats]

The regular Helix Stadium is probably going to be their "rack model".

-Small enough to fit on a rack shelf if you want to tuck it away like people do with the QC
-No scribble strips or on-board expression which serve no purpose in a rack
-Nexus port I/O (as well as MIDI and USB ports) opens the possibility for controlling it with a peripheral devices (updated Helix Control maybe?)

you might be right here.

 

[HotRats]

The original POD (and ampfarm, same modeling) are on TONS of major label releases from that era.

ampfarm TDM plug in for pro tools was in the plug-in list of every studio.
People got quite upset when they announced the end of tdm version in 2008

 

[EOengineer]

If I am betting the HX stadium Native and Stompium are probably next on the list in the 3 year plan

This seems reasonable. DI did say they have no functional version of Native for Stadium at the moment, but a couple years is probably enough time for them to get it together if they are nearly release ready on their new hardware offerings.

 

[Tito83]

My suggestion is death to everything "legacy"

 

[spawnofthesith]

My suggestion is death to everything "legacy"

Hell no

 

[Mikael Dez]

I think that L6 has catered to the "I play around in my basement" crowd for most of its history. The only market for a rack version is live performance. Since this is my primary use, the lack of a rack + foot controller model would likely prevent me from changing my rig no matter how many other bells and whistles the Stadium had.

Still, the percentage of people that ACTUALLY gig their equipment is likely small, so this might make sense.

Racks are perfect for home studios and basement shredders - it's easy to rack or shelve or put somewhere that isn't offensive

 

[GTR37]

Honestly, I think they should just color-code the Agoura amps differently.

100%

 

[OneEng]

The idea is that the "brain" if the rig is tucked away and then controlled by a much less expensive remote.

With an all in one, if someone breaks on the floor unit, the whole operation needs replaced.

Both have their pros and cons

There is that, but I was generally thinking more about not having a power cord and two XLR's down at my feet. Just a single Ethercon connection to the foot controller. But you are correct. The random drunk person at 2:00am sloshing their drink onto your floor board is a REAL thing.

The original POD (and ampfarm, same modeling) are on TONS of major label releases from that era.

Indeed. It was the original digital preamp for all intents and purposes.

Yeah I don’t really get the point of the weird revisionism there. The POD was released in 1996. It’s almost universally known as the first widely successful digital modeling product. It has its limits and we can see them more clearly now because of the progress that has been made, as will be the case in 30 years when discussing current Helix or Fractal products.

Nothing is intended to be revisionism. I thought poorly of the entire Line 6 amp lineup back then. Compared to my VHT rig (or any other decent tube amp), it was a joke. That isn't to belittle the progress it represented, only to point out that Line 6 got associated with crap tone at that time from most serious gigging musicians (including me), but that their advantages bought them the loyalty of a completely different persona than the weekend warrior musician.

Racks are perfect for home studios and basement shredders - it's easy to rack or shelve or put somewhere that isn't offensive

Never thought of that. For a permanent install, a rack would be ideal.