Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[Orvillain]

To be fair... it does sound like the menu music from Crash Bandicoot or Gex.

 

[dean701]

sharing a quick demo just for fun. one of them is an fm9. just to show you can get them close. the effects are both native to each modeler. agoura 2203mv.



(threw a backing track in afterwards just for context - normally I would fix the timing but not just for this) don't ever try to put a backing track last against a freetime sound clip. :)

 

[GTR37]

Just don’t turn hype up too high - the virtual cone hits the virtual cloth and all the LUFS in the world can’t save you then

sharing a quick demo just for fun. one of them is an fm9. just to show you can get them close. the effects are both native to each modeler. agoura 2203mv.

What ever # 2 was I much preferred
The amp and effects

 

[Amarok]

@brianwahl are you guys going to be doing any DI captures of the proxy packs you first put out? I love the amp+cab Matchless Chieftain capture, would be awesome if I could use it with my power amp/cab as well.

 

[Gary_W]

After enjoying the free Proxy captures from @brianwahl at Signal Theory, I decided to pay for the Benson Chimera that they’ve recently released. I had a Benson pack on my Kemper which I liked but it had nothing on this imo.

It’s absolutely fantastic for my taste - not only the captures themselves but also the presets that come with it which have ample snapshots. I’m personally not a fan of the really washed out stuff that a couple of the snapshots go to but there is so much in there that does the trick with the other snapshots and just turning pedals on. I really like this amp hit with the king of tone the way it’s dialled in here - I tried it with several different guitars yesterday and I couldn’t decide what I liked going best into this.

I haven’t tried the direct captures yet but I will…..

I don’t really want to go down the rabbit hole of buying lots of captures / scrolling through them as I’ve enjoyed the experience of using focus view then tweaking to taste to get where I want to go. I didn’t intend to go back to my old Kemper ways! Glad I ignored my own thinking on this due to nostalgia for a profile I liked on that platform……. There’s only 4 captures of this amp and (imo) that’s a good thing - plenty of tone shaping between those, the pedals as set up here and of course the guitar you hit it with.

If you haven’t tried their free Vox and Victory yet, give them a go - worth it for the way they’ve set the presets up and gives you an idea of the places they go / how they dial in to see if they’re a good fit for you. I’m trying to resist the bad cat now….

 

[guyonthefox]

I recently got a Eventide H9.

How do I hook it up so that it returns in stereo?

Currently I have TRS -> TS into H9 and then TS->TRS in an effect loop. That doesn't see to return in stereo. If I put a Ping Pong delay after the FX loop I hear stereo, however if it's before the Loop, it's no longer stereo.

What am I missing?

 

[Enchilada Jones]

I recently got a Eventide H9.

How do I hook it up so that it returns in stereo?

Currently I have TRS -> TS into H9 and then TS->TRS in an effect loop. That doesn't see to return in stereo. If I put a Ping Pong delay after the FX loop I hear stereo, however if it's before the Loop, it's no longer stereo.

What am I missing?

TS is mono...TRS is stereo.
So if Im understanding you, even if your H9 has a stereo/mono input/output jacks (does it?). Regardless, even if the TRS is being taken in as stereo it looks like your signal is leaving the H9 with only a mono cable...plugging a TS into a TRS jack doesnt make it become stereo...
Also, I believe there is a routing choice in the H9 to be set if you want the H9 to send stereo or mono

 

[mikah912]

sharing a quick demo just for fun. one of them is an fm9. just to show you can get them close. the effects are both native to each modeler. agoura 2203mv.



(threw a backing track in afterwards just for context - normally I would fix the timing but not just for this) don't ever try to put a backing track last against a freetime sound clip. :)

You have the deets on that Agoura 2203 tone? Or a preset. Would love to have that in my bag.

 

[contrario]

sharing a quick demo just for fun. one of them is an fm9. just to show you can get them close. the effects are both native to each modeler. agoura 2203mv.

I don't think they sound close enough. The 2nd one must be Stadium. It's way darker and less open compared to the first.

 

[Mongillo19]

I don't think they sound close enough. The 2nd one must be Stadium. It's way darker and less open compared to the first.

This is when they tell you the 2nd one is FAS

Which it very well could be. FAS has something in the mids that I kinda hear in the clips. I could also be totally wrong.

 

[guyonthefox]

TS is mono...TRS is stereo.
So if Im understanding you, even if your H9 has a stereo/mono input/output jacks (does it?). Regardless, even if the TRS is being taken in as stereo it looks like your signal is leaving the H9 with only a mono cable...plugging a TS into a TRS jack doesnt make it become stereo...
Also, I believe there is a routing choice in the H9 to be set if you want the H9 to send stereo or mono

Yes it does have stereo output. (pg 14)

It has 2 inputs (hence I'm splitting the TRS from Helix into 2 TS) and then 2 outputs (2 TS out into a single TRS into the Helix). Sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[Enchilada Jones]

Yes it does have stereo output. (pg 14)

It has 2 inputs (hence I'm splitting the TRS from Helix into 2 TS) and then 2 outputs (2 TS out into a single TRS into the Helix). Sorry if that wasn't clear.

Ok, a couple thoughts. Make sure the delay you are using ( or any block) isn’t one that sums the signal or I think the memory man delay has its own weird way of combining the left and right. And again, is there some routing inside the H9 that needs to be set up so the two left and right pairs are in fact delivering that? I haven’t had an H9 in a long time but I’m sure the H90 was like that

 

[BenIfin]

sharing a quick demo just for fun. one of them is an fm9. just to show you can get them close. the effects are both native to each modeler. agoura 2203mv.



(threw a backing track in afterwards just for context - normally I would fix the timing but not just for this) don't ever try to put a backing track last against a freetime sound clip. :)

Thanks for the demo and post !

Solo Track 2 beats 1 - would be much more pleasant to play on its own

Full Mix Track 1 beats 2 - punch's through the mix effortlessly and isn't lost - sits perfectly in its pocket

No idea which is what or which, but give me even a basic EQ Block in front of each Amp Block, and I'd make them in-separable in no time :)

 

[guyonthefox]

Ok, a couple thoughts. Make sure the delay you are using ( or any block) isn’t one that sums the signal or I think the memory man delay has its own weird way of combining the left and right. And again, is there some routing inside the H9 that needs to be set up so the two left and right pairs are in fact delivering that? I haven’t had an H9 in a long time but I’m sure the H90 was like that

I was using a stereo ping pong delay (and stereo reverb). And you're right the H9 needs to be set to Normal.

I figured it out. Maybe there's a better way, but...

• TRS out Helix 4 -> single TS on both H9 inputs
• Single TS out H9 -> Helix Return 4, Single TS out the other H9 output-> Helix Return 3
• On the Helix add Send 4 block
• On the Helix add Return 3/4 block

And as long as any effect is stereo before/after H9 it will remain stereo no matter where the H9 is.

 

[Hush]

I was using a stereo ping pong delay (and stereo reverb). And you're right the H9 needs to be set to Normal.

I figured it out. Maybe there's a better way, but...

• TRS out Helix 4 -> single TS on both H9 inputs
• Single TS out H9 -> Helix Return 4, Single TS out the other H9 output-> Helix Return 3
• On the Helix add Send 4 block
• On the Helix add Return 3/4 block

And as long as any effect is stereo before/after H9 it will remain stereo no matter where the H9 is.

Pan return 3 left and pan return 4 right?

 

[guyonthefox]

Pan return 3 left and pan return 4 right?

I didn't pan.

 

[brianwahl]

@brianwahl are you guys going to be doing any DI captures of the proxy packs you first put out? I love the amp+cab Matchless Chieftain capture, would be awesome if I could use it with my power amp/cab as well.

We are for sure!

In the Amp Collections we put out, we didn’t include any direct clones, mostly because of time constraints - we wanted to get them out as quickly as we could.

All of the full amp clone packs that are on the site have a full set of direct clones (except the free AC30, and I might add directs of that if people want them).

Moving forward for the full amp packs, we’ll include direct clones as well.

 

[brianwahl]

After enjoying the free Proxy captures from @brianwahl at Signal Theory, I decided to pay for the Benson Chimera that they’ve recently released. I had a Benson pack on my Kemper which I liked but it had nothing on this imo.

It’s absolutely fantastic for my taste - not only the captures themselves but also the presets that come with it which have ample snapshots. I’m personally not a fan of the really washed out stuff that a couple of the snapshots go to but there is so much in there that does the trick with the other snapshots and just turning pedals on. I really like this amp hit with the king of tone the way it’s dialled in here - I tried it with several different guitars yesterday and I couldn’t decide what I liked going best into this.

I haven’t tried the direct captures yet but I will…..

I don’t really want to go down the rabbit hole of buying lots of captures / scrolling through them as I’ve enjoyed the experience of using focus view then tweaking to taste to get where I want to go. I didn’t intend to go back to my old Kemper ways! Glad I ignored my own thinking on this due to nostalgia for a profile I liked on that platform……. There’s only 4 captures of this amp and (imo) that’s a good thing - plenty of tone shaping between those, the pedals as set up here and of course the guitar you hit it with.

If you haven’t tried their free Vox and Victory yet, give them a go - worth it for the way they’ve set the presets up and gives you an idea of the places they go / how they dial in to see if they’re a good fit for you. I’m trying to resist the bad cat now….

Thanks so much! My friend/colleague Bradford captured that one - that’s his amp. It’s a really good one for sure. So glad you’re liking those clones, and the presets.

We added more speaker options as well a directs compared to the original stuff we did for Kemper. And we’ve just gotten a lot better at capturing amps. The original Chimera release was among the first we ever did.

With the snapshots we constantly skirt the line of way too much wet FX . We love them and use them a ton when we play in church, but we are 100% aware that not everyone (probably most players, honestly) don’t use or want that much.