Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[dean701]

I'm sure IK said that with their Rectifier emulations in Amplitube, and I bet they performed accurately to their testing set up. The caveat being that the load is totally skewing the results. There could be a valid reason why the amps are behaving perfectly accurately, but also giving some unexpected results. Its not as binary as good or bad.

I wasn't referring to IK at all. That's a standard line from Cliff. (which, for the record, I do believe him)

Have you tried different SICs for the Stadium tests? (choosing an alternate cab and muting it?)

 

[MirrorProfiles]

I wasn't referring to IK at all. That's a standard line from Cliff. (which, for the record, I do believe him)

Have you tried different SICs?

Oh I was just using IK as an example. The same is true for a lot of emulations - I don’t think any get released deliberately sounding off, but often they are made in environments that might differ to the environment most people use them in. Lots of models use reactive load boxes and it can cause some differences depending on what each individual is used to.

I use different SIC’s in software where it’s available. It’s definitely important and worthwhile

 

[GTR37]

I actually have no problem with that Agoura SLO. The question I have is with respect to the Plexi.

That is arguably the most important amp in the platform and something's clearly wrong with it - but I don't see any discussion around it.

I think if I am not mistaken it does not have a bright cap for one , which will have a pretty good affect on how aggressive you can get it

 

[dean701]

Oh I was just using IK as an example. The same is true for a lot of emulations - I don’t think any get released deliberately sounding off, but often they are made in environments that might differ to the environment most people use them in. Lots of models use reactive load boxes and it can cause some differences depending on what each individual is used to.

I use different SIC’s in software where it’s available. It’s definitely important and worthwhile

yes, but did you try choosing an alternate Stadium cab and muting it to see how it affects the sound? I'm just curious as the SIC design strategy is "weird" on the Stadium.

 

[MirrorProfiles]

yes, but did you try choosing an alternate Stadium cab and muting it to see how it affects the sound? I'm just curious as the SIC design strategy is "weird" on the Stadium.

I haven’t tested but I am curious to hear (similarly how it handles multiple cabs).

 

[banned]

I think if I am not mistaken it does not have a bright cap for one , which will have a pretty good affect on how aggressive you can get it

It's not the bright cap - it sounds just right to me in terms of brightness. But when you attack it aggressively - it can go splat ... which is odd.

 

[MIJLOVER]

It's not the bright cap - it sounds just right to me in terms of brightness. But when you attack it aggressively - it can go splat ... which is odd.

Interestingly enough I didn’t like the HX model so assumed I wouldn’t like this either but I actually do. Would’ve been nice with at bright cap/switch too, but it surprised me how much I actually like it

 

[dean701]

I haven’t tested but I am curious to hear (similarly how it handles multiple cabs).

You know what I'm saying right? When you use your own IR (IR block), the Stadium uses the SIC associated with the matching cab for that amp. If you add a cab block and mute it, it will use the SIC of that muted cab. As I understand it.

 

[Mongillo19]

You know what I'm saying right? When you use your own IR (IR block), the Stadium uses the SIC associated with the matching cab for that amp. If you add a cab block and mute it, it will use the SIC of that muted cab. As I understand it.

This seems like such an easy issue to fix. Just make it selectable in the amp block

 

[Orvillain]

This seems like such an easy issue to fix. Just make it selectable in the amp block

They're always very reluctant to give us useful things like this! But personally... I can count the number of times I ever used the ripple control on one hand!!

 

[dean701]

This seems like such an easy issue to fix. Just make it selectable in the amp block

absolutely and when I flip SICs in the amp in the Fractal world the difference in sound is drastic.

 

[ccc118]

It's not the bright cap - it sounds just right to me in terms of brightness. But when you attack it aggressively - it can go splat ... which is odd.

I know what sound you're talking about. It seems to be related to the presence control. I have it on 7 and can strum pretty hard and don't hear it. If I set it higher, then it starts to become noticeable. At 10, it sounds kind of broken. It may depend on how hot your pickups are. I kind of wish the hype knob would dial this out, but it actually makes it worse since it adds gain.

I've always thought the HX model has a weird presence control. I've never liked it above 5 otherwise it almost sounds like an active control.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[…] I can count the number of times I ever used the ripple control on one hand!!

„Hey, how much undesirable, disharmonious deep rumbling do you want today?“

 

[dean701]

I can count the number of times I ever used the nipple control on one hand!!

Nipple?

 

[JiveTurkey]

 

[Orvillain]

Nipple?

No.

 

[GTR37]

„Hey, how much undesirable, disharmonious deep rumbling do you want today?“

You just need to add a little Hum to balance it out

Hum / ripple / sag are the first parameters I turn off or way down

 

[Dez]

You just need to add a little Hum to balance it out

Hum / ripple / sag are the first parameters I turn off or way down

I just fuckin hate those parameters. It’s not on the damn amp lol I have no use for that shit. The amp model either sounds good with normal EQ options or it doesn’t and that’s how I choose the models I use