Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk

[BenIfin]

Curious ... and clearly noting that Stadium is still in its embryonic stage .....

.... been reading this discussion and stuff at TOP .... Agoura seems to be considered fantastic for clean , e.o.b, crunch , rock tones .... but quite a few people seem to be saying that the higher gain / very high gain amps are "not quite right" yet in Agoura (?)

Is this a "fair" / "accurate" representation of where things are at currently with 1.2.1 (?)

 

[LP59]

Curious ... and clearly noting that Stadium is still in its embryonic stage .....

.... been reading this discussion and stuff at TOP .... Agoura seems to be considered fantastic for clean , e.o.b, crunch , rock tones .... but quite a few people seem to be saying that the higher gain / very high gain amps are "not quite right" yet in Agoura (?)

Is this a "fair" / "accurate" representation of where things are at currently with 1.2.1 (?)

I don't even know what "quite right" means any more. All I know is I can get some satisfying high gain tones more easily with my Stadium than with my AxeFX III. That might be because of my own failings though.

 

[BenIfin]

I don't even know what "quite right" means any more. All I know is I can get some satisfying high gain tones more easily with my Stadium than with my AxeFX III. That might be because of my own failings though.

Thanks. I guess what I was referring to was posts / comments around Stadium higher gain / very high gain Amp Tones -vs- Axe or QC equivalents (?)

Maybe I am/was assuming / just reading too much into it ?

 

[mikah912]

Curious ... and clearly noting that Stadium is still in its embryonic stage .....

.... been reading this discussion and stuff at TOP .... Agoura seems to be considered fantastic for clean , e.o.b, crunch , rock tones .... but quite a few people seem to be saying that the higher gain / very high gain amps are "not quite right" yet in Agoura (?)

Is this a "fair" / "accurate" representation of where things are at currently with 1.2.1 (?)

You'll get a bunch of different answers, but I don't think that's accurate.

As both a former FM9 owner and extensive user of all the HX models:

• REVV channels have plenty of high end and seem spot on to me
• I would say the same for the Soldano, Mark IIC and Silver Jubilee models.
• I'm just not a fan of the Agoura 5150 III channels. Part of it is that they picked the blandest one (OG 100 watt 6L6) and part MIGHT be that they didn't quite nail this one.
• The Ecstasy is a completely different one than the Fractal (101b vs. 20th Anniversary), but I'll say I like it better than the HX one. Definitely better feel and dynamics.
• The JCM800 is great, but the Plexi, ironically, sounds like it too stringy and strident in the high end to my ears. I use the Voltage or Superbass for those types of sounds.

 

[EOengineer]

Curious ... and clearly noting that Stadium is still in its embryonic stage .....

.... been reading this discussion and stuff at TOP .... Agoura seems to be considered fantastic for clean , e.o.b, crunch , rock tones .... but quite a few people seem to be saying that the higher gain / very high gain amps are "not quite right" yet in Agoura (?)

Is this a "fair" / "accurate" representation of where things are at currently with 1.2.1 (?)

I’ve dialed in very satisfying clean, EOB, up through medium-high gain tones in Agoura. Let’s say maxed out stock 800. The lower and medium gain stuff might be industry leading.

Jury is still out for high gain and heavy tones. Some of those models sound very “modeler” to me but I’m sitting with it all for a bit.

 

[[Nathan]]

People also say Fractal, Kemper, TMP and QC are "not quite right" with their amp modelling.
I'm keen to get a hold of one soon and check it out. I'm a big fan of the 5150iii and that seems to be the biggest model in contention on the unit (AFAIA).

 

[banned]

Curious ... and clearly noting that Stadium is still in its embryonic stage .....

.... been reading this discussion and stuff at TOP .... Agoura seems to be considered fantastic for clean , e.o.b, crunch , rock tones .... but quite a few people seem to be saying that the higher gain / very high gain amps are "not quite right" yet in Agoura (?)

Is this a "fair" / "accurate" representation of where things are at currently with 1.2.1 (?)

My 2C

* Many of the clean amps are missing some important high-end frequencies - example Deluxe Reverb
* Plexi sounds really messed up to me

On the positive side - there are many great amps - the Bassman is amazing, the Hiwatt, the SuperBass - all great!