EOengineer
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Line 6 ripped off the Shining.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk
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GLiDE-BPM
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SasCha has an interesting and unique.... brain thingy....
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Sascha Franck
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Do I smell envy?
GLiDE-BPM
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In your sick effing infantile dreams...
Sascha Franck
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Oh, what a clever comment. I bet you needed quite some time to compose it.
Seriously, someone commenting almost each of my posts with idiot smileys or poo emojis can just <insert whatever you feel like here>.
And fwiw, you don't even manage to write my name correctly (or do you think I actually misspelled "SasCha"?)
So much about that, byebye.
paisleywookiee
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We’re not going to start calling each other dick wieners, are we? I thought we moved past that.
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Nope nope nope, none of this handwavey vague nonsense.
I shared side-by-side photos—twice—so you don't even need to look it up. How did Line 6 copy GT-10?
Specifics, Sascha. If I can bring receipts, so can you.
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Karl Houseknecht
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And don’t forget:
- Gold shielding paint applied to the plastic case which chipped off and shorted out the board if you were unlucky.
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Yes we are , then we will discuss pitch shitting until Jay shows up , I am calling an uber
If 1.2 drops within the next week or so, that should help for a like 5 mins.
Now comes the hard part of waiting for this thing
Living vicariously through y’all here
Same here! Still waiting…Living vicariously through y’all here
Sascha Franck
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I for one ain't. And I've actually been past that decades ago.
Sascha Franck
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Well, apparently they didn't. But then it was the GT-5s or GT-8s. Because these preceded the Pod X3 Live.
I already said so, there's no winner in this race.
I just don't buy all that "Line 6 designed every floor modeler since 1764" that you love to come up with - which is just not true. It's a more or less logical evolution.
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Sascha Franck
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Dude...
Yes please?
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When I originally bought my FM3, I really thought that all this stuff was going to tickle my fancy, but ultimately I found that the individual effect of most changes was extremely subtle, although obviously they do stack.
In the end though, I tended not to bother with any of those advanced parameters, and ended up selling my FM3 and kept my Helix, because I preferred the workflow (and the Helix drives!).
I did try again with the FM9, but the result was the same.
With Stadium, I think Line 6 absolutely knocked it out of the park and I can't see where they take it over the next 5 to 10 years!
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I see your point, evolution is always incremental, but you are stretching things too far, in my opinion.
It's obvious that a floor guitar unit must have, in & outs, swtiches & knobs and some sort of screen or whatever visual feedback device.
That doen't mean that all units with those elements are equal or that the way those things are used are equal.
I give you that digitaligloo pushing the "line6 did it fist" claim might sound a bit of a stretch, if you look at audio tech in general.
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Just that there's no need to be harsh when you're being pointed out as simply wrong. Jeez, can't imagine how it must be arguing with you at home.
DI asked you to provide examples of stuff in GT-10 that were copied in Helix, yet you go and tell him "I just don't buy all that "Line 6 designed every floor modeler since 1764" that you love to come up with". Why that unprovoked attack?
I don't know if it's due to some kind of Asperger's, but this level of stubbornness and pride is off the charts. It's like being wrong is worse than death for you.
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Perhaps, but...
This is what's really getting on my t**s at times. All this "they have stolen this from us" (even if sometimes true) is basically just digital device evolution. Because as you've said, ultimately there's a necessity of I/Os, switches, possibly an EXP pedal and a display of some sorts.
Given some brief research, the first to release such a "complete" unit have been Digitech with their RP-1 (no expression pedal, though, but that's something people not generally agree upon as a necessity). That was 92/93. Then there's been the GT-5 (96), followed by things such as the Korg ToneWorks AX1G (99), Digitech RP200 and what not.
These pretty much were the "role models" for that format, with the GT-5 likely being the first that was actually used in a more or less professional context by some players (in fact, a guy I know, killer player, has stocked 4-5 by now, so he's got spares until the end of his life), maybe this worked out so well because the drives and such were analog (the amps obviously weren't). I should actually take mine out one day and see how well it holds up in case I'd run it through a better cab sim...
Anyhow, the first complete floor modeler made by Line 6 only came out in 03, so that's a decade afrer the RP-1 and still 7 years after the GT-5.
Apart from the improved sonic qualities, pretty much any others were just UI improvements on the same theme. And as said, it's a logical evolution anyway.
