Sascha Franck
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I've been on the tourbus but I will happily provide a video of an E1 note pitched up with the process causing way less than 23ms later on when I'm in the hotel.
Line 6 Helix Stadium Talk
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I've been on the tourbus but I will happily provide a video of an E1 note pitched up with the process causing way less than 23ms later on when I'm in the hotel.
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I already said I'd move this shit discussion to the Thunderdome, as requested by the mods. But since you keep continuing...
That's not what you need to prove. I've already said that there are different ways to achieve pitch shifting, and so any pitch shifter you try, you will have to prove does it using pitch detection (which does require at least 1 cycle to detect the pitch, which means an E0 would be 24.2ms for 1 cycle); as opposed to the other ways of doing it, which do have lower latency - albeit, not by much.
What you need to prove is your original assertion:
Well, it basically really only depends on CPU power. More juice = less calculation time needed.
I'm not saying anything else.
fiftyshadesofslay
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One of the reasons I’ve gone with the Helix Stadium is if there are any bugs or hardware issues, I know I’ll be well looked after and it’ll get sorted.
I had a hardware issue with a launch OG Helix years ago and Frank went above and beyond to get me sorted.
Line 6 has the best customer service in the business.
I had a hardware issue with a launch OG Helix years ago and Frank went above and beyond to get me sorted.
Line 6 has the best customer service in the business.
fiftyshadesofslay
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Holy shit, you guys really know how to party when you’re on tour!
Sascha Franck
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Couldn't read everything, will answer in a dedicated thread tonight. Now I've got a show to play.
Karl Houseknecht
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Thank god. Go play and quit yer bitchin. Today is a day for turkey, football, and naps.
Mongillo19
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Neither are American so......
AlbertA
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Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo comparison - all set to downshift 2 semi tones.
Looks like the Poly Capo trades off more artifacts during the attack instead of warbling during sustain - this particular example kinda amplifies it - when playing normally I do hear the attack artifacts but don't seem as pronounced.
Looks like the Poly Capo trades off more artifacts during the attack instead of warbling during sustain - this particular example kinda amplifies it - when playing normally I do hear the attack artifacts but don't seem as pronounced.
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- Apple's AUNewPitch Plugin
- Axe-Fx III v29.01
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo X Stable
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo Stable
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo Fast
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo X Fast
dean701
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I'd be interested if you tried fw31. The capo is not great for me. Artificial harmonics are causing huge issues.
I was debating going back to fw27
Karl Houseknecht
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I wasn’t talking about them. I want to enjoy those things myself while not hearing all about who’s wrong about pitch shifting. I suppose I could also just not come here.Neither are American so......
AlbertA
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I have not.
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There's only one turkey here and I'm sure he doesn't care about football or ever sleep
GTR37
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IMO pinch harmonics are going to be difficult to track with even the best pitch detection as they are kind of unstable they are all over the place depending on where you hit the string you can get like 3 different pitches
Are you bending , hitting near the neck , near the bridge
Between the frets
dean701
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I'm crazy with the cheez wiz with my pinch harmonics. I think the tracking was best with fw27 (27.02 specifically) before all the recent drive/pre-amp adjustments but I digress. Other things are better. It's tough to compare units when things are so organic. I'm tempted to re-try the QC ffs with their new code.
These seem solid:
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo X Stable
- Helix Stadium XL Poly Capo Stable
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Play your show. Come back to this. End of discussion.
Helix Poly Capo - 10.4167
Helix Poly Whammy - 9.1667
Helix Poly Pitch - 10.02
Helix Simple Pitch - no latency that I can detect, but EXTREMELY smeared transients.
Helix Twin Harmony - no latency that I can detect, but EXTREMELY smeared transients.
Helix Pitch Whammy - no latency that I can detect, but EXTREMELY smeared transients.
Rubber Band Pitch Shifting Algorithm - 391ms (with Reaper default settings)
Elastique 3.3.3 Pro - no latency that I can detect, but EXTREMELY smeared transients.
Axe FX III Advanced Whammy - 12.15ms (set to notes mode)
Axe FX III Advanced Whammy - 11.05ms (set to chords mode)
Axe FX III Classic Whammy - 29.1875ms (set to notes mode)
Axe FX III Classic Whammy - 29.13ms (set to chords mode)
Axe FX III Virtual Capo - 8.96ms (set to notes mode, tracking adjust at 5.0 - shift at +24)
Axe FX III Virtual Capo - 7.71ms (set to notes mode, tracking adjust at 10.0 - shift at +24)
Axe FX III Virtual Capo - 9.88ms (set to notes mode, tracking adjust at 0.0 - shift at +24)
Axe FX III Virtual Capo - 22.33ms (set to notes mode, tracking adjust at 0.0 - shift at -24)
Soundtoys Little Alter Boy - 1.73ms (sounds awful though)
Okay - now I say NOTHING else!!
Chocol8
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Neither are American so......
They would still both be better off with Turkey, football and naps.
