Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[DanRad]

According to the manual CC1 is assigned to emulate exp 1. Mod wheels send CC1. So not a bug unless it's responding to messages from the wrong channel.

Which reminds me that I think there's a bug in the HX ONE. It seems to actually respond to CC1 from any channel despite the channel setting. So if I have it hooked up via MIDI and I move the mod wheel on my keyboard, I get an ultra rapid fire bypass. Haven't tested more, because it's the only device that will respond to the wrong CC1.

Yeah. I figured that out. Seems weird to me, but I changed the MIDI channel on the Stadium, and all is good there. But I can't figure out how to change the listening channel on the GM-800 or change the CC the modulation wheel is sending, so it's changing the volume and other settings on the GM-800 that I don't want.

I guess I never used the modulation wheel on my previous keyboard.

 

[Aleksi]

Yeah. I figured that out. Seems weird to me, but I changed the MIDI channel on the Stadium, and all is good there. But I can't figure out how to change the listening channel on the GM-800 or change the CC the modulation wheel is sending, so it's changing the volume and other settings on the GM-800 that I don't want.

I guess I never used the modulation wheel on my previous keyboard.

Mod wheel is CC1 in the MIDI standard. Some keyboards do allow you to change it, but probably not all. Modulation assignments are usually made on the receiving end, so check the GM-800 manual. I would imagine it's pretty flexible.

My HX One bug turned out to be a bug in another device after extensive testing

 

[DanRad]

Mod wheel is CC1 in the MIDI standard. Some keyboards do allow you to change it, but probably not all. Modulation assignments are usually made on the receiving end, so check the GM-800 manual. I would imagine it's pretty flexible.

My HX One bug turned out to be a bug in another device after extensive testing

The Boss manual is, to be frank, absolute crap. But I'll see what I can figure out.

 

[Digital Igloo]

My HX One bug turned out to be a bug in another device after extensive testing

Note to self: Keep reading the thread before you waste 15 minutes trying to repro a "bug."

 

[DanRad]

The Boss manual is, to be frank, absolute crap. But I'll see what I can figure out.

I thought I had figured out the EXP 1 issue by changing a MIDI channel last night, but today it's back to reacting to the mod wheel.

I bought a MIDI Events Processor to automate switching the note source on the GM-800 between the GK pickup and MIDI. I think I'll see if I can program a simple CC 1 to CC 16 swap into that. I think that should take care of the issue.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I thought I had figured out the EXP 1 issue by changing a MIDI channel last night, but today it's back to reacting to the mod wheel.

I bought a MIDI Events Processor to automate switching the note source on the GM-800 between the GK pickup and MIDI. I think I'll see if I can program a simple CC 1 to CC 16 swap into that. I think that should take care of the issue.

Do you actually need the Stadium to receive MIDI?

 

[DanRad]

Do you actually need the Stadium to receive MIDI?

I run the keyboard MIDI Out into the Stadium In, then the Stadium Out/Thru to the GM-800. That way I can use Command Center to change presets and the note source on the GM-800.

Also, I'm wondering if there's a way to use the Akai's X-Y controller to control the Helix X-Y function, but I haven't even begun to look into that.

 

[DanRad]

I thought I had figured out the EXP 1 issue by changing a MIDI channel last night, but today it's back to reacting to the mod wheel.

I bought a MIDI Events Processor to automate switching the note source on the GM-800 between the GK pickup and MIDI. I think I'll see if I can program a simple CC 1 to CC 16 swap into that. I think that should take care of the issue.

Well, that didn't work. Sigh.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Well, that didn't work. Sigh.

Can you leave the keyboard and GM-800 on Ch 1 and set Stadium's Global Settings > MIDI > Global MIDI Channel to 2?

 

[Aleksi]

Note to self: Keep reading the thread before you waste 15 minutes trying to repro a "bug."

I still don't understand why it seems to only affect the HX One I managed to trace it to the latest fw version in my sequencer (Oxi One mkII) after pulling my setup apart. Having the relay switch a hundred times a second does sound really cool

 

[Sascha Franck]

I run the keyboard MIDI Out into the Stadium In, then the Stadium Out/Thru to the GM-800. That way I can use Command Center to change presets and the note source on the GM-800.

Wouldn't that still work in case you set MIDI RX to off? Never tested it myself but MIDI Thru might still be working (and MIDI out would work anyway).

 

[JiveTurkey]

Go RubyTopaz and buy a 2nd GM800 that stays connected to the keyboard controller