Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Got 2 weeks to find 2 grand then! <gulp>

Got something to sell?

 

[Fireproof]

There are some pretty big pivots from Helix/HX, like preset management, Cab IR management, output routing/Matrix Mixer, templates, controller assignment, the Command Center... They're all big improvements, but definitely require explanation to someone intimately familiar with Helix/HX.

Mid-Novemberish looks pretty likely, but we'll be positively slammed until then. Vacation is looking mighty sweet right about now.

I like the sound of all that TBH!!

 

[Orvillain]

Got something to sell?

Yeah. Trying to flog my Gigrig. Could also sell my old Helix and my Fractal FC-12 foot controller.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Yeah. Trying to flog my Gigrig. Could also sell my old Helix and my Fractal FC-12 foot controller.

I had something else in mind.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I had something else in mind.

UK drugs aren't that good anymore.

 

[EOengineer]

Cash, grass, or ass.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

UK drugs aren't that good anymore.

Orv knows what I crave.

 

[Mongillo19]

Orv knows what I crave.

JVM JVM JVM

 

[jmcecil]

having participated in many alpha releases of software, I can without hesitation say that if people got it early even knowing that 1.1 wasn't ready, the amount of THIS IS AN UNBAKED PILE OF SHIT posts would be off the charts.

 

[Digital Igloo]

having participated in many alpha releases of software, I can without hesitation say that if people got it early even knowing that 1.1 wasn't ready, the amount of THIS IS AN UNBAKED PILE OF SHIT posts would be off the charts.

I mean, yeah, from my perspective, 1.0 is certainly unbaked, but then gain, Helix/HX isn't fully baked from my perspective either. We're always thinking two or three firmware releases ahead and the current firmware is always annoying because we're excited for what's coming.

 

[jmcecil]

by the way this is super timely ... I just had a scribble strip LED go wonky on my Helix rendering it completely unusable < possible sarcastic overstatement >

 

[Orvillain]

Orv knows what I crave.

I have to keep it for when I get into amp modelling DSP.

(actually that has been my justification for having 10+ amps for a long time looooooool!)

 

[AlbertA]

 

[Lysander]

Wow it is subtle - i could only barely tell any difference for the Twin Reverb and Super Lead in those clips. Feels like it's mostly baked-in compression and EQ?

 

[Sascha Franck]

Wow it is subtle - i could only barely tell any difference for the Twin Reverb and Super Lead in those clips.

With the Twin it's pretty noticeable IMO - and yeah, defenitely some compression kicking in. But that's possibly cool, especially for live applications.

 

[mbenigni]

Wow it is subtle - i could only barely tell any difference for the Twin Reverb and Super Lead in those clips. Feels like it's mostly baked-in compression and EQ?

I think Hype is (perhaps more than anything else) something you won't be able to properly evaluate, or appreciate, until you're holding the guitar in your own hands and turning the knob. Just listening to online audio clips, the change in volume alone is enough to keep my ears confused.

 

[mikah912]

With the Twin it's pretty noticeable IMO - and yeah, defenitely some compression kicking in. But that's possibly cool, especially for live applications.

I could see it being the sort of thing you crank up just before soundcheck or recording takes where it makes things a smidge more palatable for a mix.

Definitely wasn't how I envisioned it working from how they first mentioned it at the June launch. If we're talking about making an amp sound how people think it sounds rather than how it authentically sounds, I immediately thought of Plexis and JCM800 2203s being perceived as gainer, more compressed beasts like the 80s sounds that came from so many hot-rodded Marshalls or ones boosted with ample EQ or drives in front.

But the Hype I've heard on those sounds - in this video and on Line 6's Stadium page - just seem to add a bit of volume and compression even when cranked to 10.

 

[JiveTurkey]

Focus zones like a sumbuck while avoiding Hype control like the plague.

 

[Lysander]

But the Hype I've heard on those sounds - in this video and on Line 6's Stadium page - just seem to add a bit of volume and compression even when cranked to 10.

Note how the top-end harshness of the Super Lead goes away with hype over 9.0. The real amp does that, but most people who never played a tube amp associate that fiz with "digital".

 

[mikah912]

Focus zones like a sumbuck while avoiding Hype control like the plague.

Hey, I'm open to having my mind changed, but that will be like 30th on my list of things to run through once I get my XL.