Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[Sascha Franck]

Let's say you are right.....now what, what are you going to do with this information?

Cancel his order, because Stadium = Pod HD.

 

[James Freeman]

I read timbuck3 posts with Stephen Hawkings text-to-speech voice.

"It doesn't have to be like this
All we need to do is make sure we keep talking"

 

[Dimiguitar]

My theory was that I realize they put a lot of money and research and whatever into this new helix Stadium, but that’s gonna be considered the flagship now obviously but they’re probably phase out the old helix, and this will become the new helix, and then the next iteration will probably have a whole new namewhether that comes in a year or two years 10 years I don’t know, but that’s my guess they wanted to get this display the touchscreen in the gooey the GUI on this new unit called helix so that the next iteration can come along and this will be kind of like the HD 500 was when helix was released

Oh, I agree with you that there will be a next iteration at some point. Don't know how it'll be called.. But imo it's reasonable to think we may see some more radical rebranding in terms of the names of the units eventually.

I just think if that happens it'll take a long, long time. Personally I would confidently buy a stadium if I was in need of a modeler/profiler and wanted updates for time to come -- or at least the possibility of a new unit some time in the future probably wouldn't deter me, considering what we know about the stadium.

If you buy a stadium but dislike the helix amp sims (if you do), how about not using them? Like, focus on the agora parts, the agora updates and the capturing process when it comes out, if that interests you :) I use fractal units a lot and also tend to practically disregard certain aspects of them.

 

[HotRats]

I read timbuck3 posts with Stephen Hawkings text-to-speech voice.

"It doesn't have to be like this
All we need to do is make sure we keep talking"

 

[EOengineer]

Every piece of technology is an intermediate device. Ever. If that’s an issue, digital modeling products might not be for you.

Can we just move on and pretend this never happened?

 

[GTR37]

I mean, Stadium hasn't even launched yet and you're thinking about when will the next product be released, when Stadium has arrived 10 years after OG Helix...

I'm curious about why you seem to be trying so hard to find a reason to cancel your preorder, tbh

 

[banned]

this is the correct answer, if you want to wait another decade before buying a Helix

While many people have FOMO - Timbuck3 has FOC (fear of commitment). He just wants to make absolutely sure that what he has is the absolute best for the money, with nothing possibly better around the corner. In the process, he winds up buying nothing.

It's ok Tim - I'm similar. But you've got to stop checking and just buy at some point.

With where we are today - I'm very confident that the amp modeled signal coming out of the output jack of most modelers will suffice for almost any situation. Where you want to focus on is the sound/audio reproduction system - that's where you're going to get the most gains. I personally have chosen guitar cab and it's made ALL the difference in closing the gap to a real amp.

So, if you find a modeler with the right feature set - just get it. It's very small incremental gains from here on if you're playing through a good guitar cab. If you want to go FRFR - then yes, there are gains to be made into the future. But if you want parity with amps, you can pretty much have it today.

 

[timbuck3]

Let's say you are right.....now what, what are you going to do with this information?

Nothing..

 

[timbuck3]

 

[Digital Igloo]

My theory was that I realize they put a lot of money and research and whatever into this new helix Stadium, but that’s gonna be considered the flagship now obviously but they’re probably phase out the old helix, and this will become the new helix...

Helix/HX products aren't getting phased out. As with all our products, they'll stay in the market until their sales diminish to the point where it costs more to keep them than to EOL them. Stadium is a new line that exists above Helix/HX.

So if we were to consider Yamaha like Volkswagen, POD Go would be Audi, Helix/HX would be Porsche, and Stadium would be Lamborghini—three separate lines under the same parent company umbrella.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

[...] So if we were to consider Yamaha like Volkswagen, POD Go would be Audi, Helix/HX would be Porsche, and Stadium would be Lamborghini—three separate lines under the same parent company umbrella.

I understand what you mean, but comparing the Line 6 product range to the VW brands Audi, Porsche, and Lamborghini is quite... well... confident.



So where's the VW icon?

 

[ian_dissonance]

I understand what you mean, but comparing the Line 6 product range to the VW brands Audi, Porsche, and Lamborghini is very... well... confident.



So where's the VW icon?

You’re thinking way too hard about this.

 

[Digital Igloo]

I understand what you mean, but comparing the Line 6 product range to the VW brands Audi, Porsche, and Lamborghini is quite... well... confident.

Sure, but I suppose you could call Spider Skoda then.

 

[AlbertA]

Panama

Nailed it
Sounds great BTW.

 

[TheTrueZoltan!]

Sure, but I suppose you could call Spider Skoda then.

That, however, would make the Spider look worse than it is.

 

[Gary_W]

Looking at the new video regarding the signal paths. Wow once more.

With that many slots available the processing power of this thing is immense. Did not know you could do four inputs at once. If it’s changing snapshots for you, you could literally run a drum track from the sd card then have you, the bass player and the vocalist all running through this at the same time with no one having to actually jump on the pedals! Do I have that right?

 

[bucephalus]

@Digital Igloo Would you rather mud wrestle a bear or a crocodile?

Or answer Eagle's questions?

 

[Sleezy E]

I'm guessing the gullwing doors won't be available at launch?

 

[Digital Igloo]

Looking at the new video regarding the signal paths. Wow once more.

With that many slots available the processing power of this thing is immense.

Note that that signal path didn't have any Agoura amps, which eat up a lot of horsepower. But if you use HX amps, yeah, you'll get a lot more blocks.

Did not know you could do four inputs at once.

Helix Floor/Rack/LT can too; we even have a template preset for it. That video showed mono outputs (1/4" and XLR panned hard left and right). Each output block can be full stereo: Matrix, 1/4" Direct, XLR Direct, Phones Direct, Path 2A, Path 2B, Path 2A+B, S/PDIF, Send 1/2, Send 3/4, USB 1/2, USB 3/4, or USB 5/6.

If it’s changing snapshots for you, you could literally run a drum track from the sd card then have you, the bass player and the vocalist all running through this at the same time with no one having to actually jump on the pedals! Do I have that right?

Technically, yes, once Showcase is up and running. Hence, "centerpiece of your entire stage." Although of course, Agoura amps may not let you run a billion other blocks.

 

[mikah912]

The Panama Red sample was cool, but I was definitely expecting a more, uh....modern example rather than the Temu version of "Summer Song" we got.

But this is where the more expanded bench of people demoing it will definitely come in handy. Maybe around Mid-September or October.....