Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[Sascha Franck]

It may a minor thing for some, but those buttons over the big volume knob to select on which output to change volume have me uncomfortably excited.

Yeah, that's pretty cool. And fwiw, not that it'd be new, but I always loved that there was the dedicated amp button. Made patch adjustement very fast. Possibly not as relevant anymore, now that there's a touchscreen to select things, still pretty great.

 

[Digital Igloo]

OMG thank you The one thing Helix always lacked was a UX lock button.

Lock Panel is coming later as a separate feature.

Yeah, that's pretty cool. And fwiw, not that it'd be new, but I always loved that there was the dedicated amp knob. Made patch adjustement very fast. Possibly not as relevant anymore, now that there's a touchscreen to select things, still pretty great.

The Amp button is more important in Stadium because you can stay in Focus view and still select it without having to exit out to the Home screen, select it, and then re-enter Focus view. Plus, holding Amp now jumps to the Cab block(s).

 

[holoholo]

Lock Panel is coming later as a separate feature.

Turtle mode? LFG!

 

[Sascha Franck]

The Amp button is more important in Stadium because you can stay in Focus view and still select it without having to exit out to the Home screen, select it, and then re-enter Focus view.

For my personal use cases, I'm not sure I'd use Focus view all that much, but that's still cool.

Plus, holding Amp now jumps to the Cab block(s).

Ok, *that* is really nice!

 

[Digital Igloo]

For my personal use cases, I'm not sure I'd use Focus view all that much, but that's still cool.

You might once we add the ability to create your own five custom zones to morph between.

 

[Orvillain]

And I'm not saying that you have to throw on a seven-string in Drop G either.

Yeah you do tho.

 

[mikah912]

Lock Panel is coming later as a separate feature.

The Amp button is more important in Stadium because you can stay in Focus view and still select it without having to exit out to the Home screen, select it, and then re-enter Focus view. Plus, holding Amp now jumps to the Cab block(s).

Yeah, I'll likely live in Focus View since that dedicated Amp button can always get me to the two blocks (Amp, cab) I'd edit the most.

I'm guessing that holding down the Amp button will not, however, get you to an IR block if you choose to use that over the onboard cabs?

 

[Orvillain]

Welp... I can count on one hand the number of times I've pre-ordered gear... and I think this might've just pushed it to the other hand.

 

[Sascha Franck]

You might once we add the ability to create your own five custom zones to morph between.

Maybe. Likely won't get a Stadium earlier than that anyway, so that might be another incentive.

 

[Sascha Franck]

I'm guessing that holding down the Amp button will not, however, get you to an IR block if you choose to use that over the onboard cabs?

That's bringing up one (in fact two) of my oldest feature requests:
1) An amp/cab block should actually as well allow you to load IRs without resorting to a dedicated block.
2) The cab portion of an amp/cab block should be bypass-able.

 

[EOengineer]

It’s an insult to compare L6 to VW. If L6 were VW, none of the switches, lights, or any other electronic components would work.

VW is and has been garbage for a VERY long time now.

 

[mikah912]

Yeah you do tho.

I don't think the 5153 will be demoed properly in a modern context until @GuitarJon (I'll throw in @2112 as well) gets his hands on it, honestly. Both of their demos of the HX 5153 were the pinnacle for me.

 

[GTR37]

I don't think the 5153 will be demoed properly in a modern context until @GuitarJon (I'll throw in @2112 as well) gets his hands on it, honestly. Both of their demos of the HX 5153 were the pinnacle for me.

Or Igor he did a great job in the Gojira Badonk clips

 

[mikah912]

Or Igor he did a great job in the Gojira Badonk clips

Damn, you right! By all means, let him do the Agoura Revv and Panama Blue/Red sound samples.

 

[AZG]

Anyone notice the looper has a Deluxe Looper and the icon is 3 standard looper icons at different angles. Name and icon suggests the looper might be a big upgrade. Maybe on par with some stand alone loopers?

 

[Gary_W]

Note that that signal path didn't have any Agoura amps, which eat up a lot of horsepower. But if you use HX amps, yeah, you'll get a lot more blocks.Helix Floor/Rack/LT can too; we even have a template preset for it. That video showed mono outputs (1/4" and XLR panned hard left and right). Each output block can be full stereo: Matrix, 1/4" Direct, XLR Direct, Phones Direct, Path 2A, Path 2B, Path 2A+B, S/PDIF, Send 1/2, Send 3/4, USB 1/2, USB 3/4, or USB 5/6.Technically, yes, once Showcase is up and running. Hence, "centerpiece of your entire stage." Although of course, Agoura amps may not let you run a billion other blocks.

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply - it makes a huge difference to have someone from the company answering questions quickly and directly in this way. I appreciate it.

I have not seen anything yet that makes me *not* want this box…. I pre-ordered (well, put a deposit down with a U.K. retailer) already and each of the videos coming out is adding evidence as to why it’s a good decision to get one. It does more than I actually need but there are several of the things coming on here that will be useful, helpful, inspiring and fun. I have every confidence I’ll be happy with the sounds - I’ve only just started playing with Native via a demo licence (the last line 6 product I owned was a much-loved Pod XT!) and I’m really impressed with what’s in there so I really cannot wait for this box, especially as my demo licence will run out in a few days!

 

[0XI0]

What would you like or expect sidechain to do?

a gate you can place after the amp or effects (reverb/delay) but that opens via the di guitar in

 

[BenIfin]

I know that won't satisfy the brootalz crowd but sounded really great to me!

Actually ... that's the first time Ive heard a 5150 that wasn't dialed in to be some wall of utterly useless undefined hashy-gain !

The clarity and definition was immediately obvious even though its not my tonal wheelhouse,

 

[Digital Igloo]

Yeah, I'll likely live in Focus View since that dedicated Amp button can always get me to the two blocks (Amp, cab) I'd edit the most.

I'm guessing that holding down the Amp button will not, however, get you to an IR block if you choose to use that over the onboard cabs?

There's no dedicated IR block any longer. All Cab blocks are dual; the left side can be Cab or IR and the right side can be None, Cab, or IR.

Anyone notice the looper has a Deluxe Looper and the icon is 3 standard looper icons at different angles. Name and icon suggests the looper might be a big upgrade. Maybe on par with some stand alone loopers?

At launch, Deluxe Looper pretty much just adds a 7th "Clear" switch on FS1. But we plan to add more switches, functionality, and parameters next year, so instead of naming it "7 Switch Looper" and changing it to "10 Switch Looper" later, we just chose "Deluxe" from the beginning. Plus, since you can custom build your own looper switch layout from the Command Center (as you can in Helix/HX), your Deluxe looper could be two, four, six, whatever number of switches.

 

[Orvillain]

There's no dedicated IR block any longer. All Cab blocks are dual; the left side can be Cab or IR and the right side can be None, Cab, or IR.

At launch, Deluxe Looper pretty much just adds a 7th "Clear" switch on FS1. But we plan to add more switches, functionality, and parameters next year, so instead of naming it "7 Switch Looper" and changing it to "10 Switch Looper" later, we just chose "Deluxe" from the beginning. Plus, since you can custom build your own looper switch layout from the Command Center (as you can in Helix/HX), your Deluxe looper could be two, four, six, whatever number of switches.

multiple loopers please. That can be optionally sync'd, so looper 1 does badass riff A, and looper 2 does total-dogshit-melodies over the top.