Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[paisleywookiee]

It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps

Calling it now, he'll cancel the order.

 

[Dimiguitar]

It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps

They will introduce more agora sims :) The hardware is capable of running them. It'll take some time for new firmwares, sure, but it's the way things tend to work now. Software develops and you get updates. But yes, I would have also wished for more agora amps at launch.

 

[Mongillo19]

Calling it now, he'll cancel the order.

I honestly don't think he ever preordered it

 

[Eagle]

I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.

I would absolutely love digital to give me the same experience as my tube gear because life would be much simpler ( and cheaper) but you can’t not notice the difference or should I say I can’t) .When I use axe for fx I run it through a mixer wet only because I hear and feel the DAC. It’s actually less noticeable to run a full model than fx in series with a tube amp and FCM is a definite no from me.

 

[GTR37]

They will introduce more agora sims :) The hardware is capable of running them. It'll take some time for new firmwares, sure, but it's the way things tend to work now. Software develops and you get updates. But yes, I would have also wished for more agora amps at launch.

Yep , there has already been a few small hints on Agoura amp

I don't recall names but someone mentioned the lack of Mesa amps in the release and said at least we can get Mesa captures early next year when Proxy launches ,, and the reply was " no one is going to have to wait for proxy to get Mesa amps"

and another post stated that there will be a new amp never in any other L6 product that will be in the first few updates

so I think they might be aggressive adding models, kind of like helix was in the early days there was updates with 3 or 4 amps in there IIRC
correctly

It would be really cool if they were redoing some of the old amps if they got hold of some newer versions like the Freidman BE DLX or the new Recto reissue that amp sound killer ,

 

[AlbertA]

It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.

From what I've gathered, Agoura is the umbrella term for new amp modeling techniques, nothing do with FXs.

 

[AlbertA]

gonna have all the old helix stuff in there

And that's bad?

 

[DanRad]

It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps

And that's bad?

I truly, truly, truly don't understand why in the hell ANYONE would prefer a successor to the Helix that would make you throw away every single patch you'd ever created and start over from scratch.

What in the absolute hell is wrong with you, man?

 

[GTR37]

I truly, truly, truly don't understand why in the hell ANYONE would prefer a successor to the Helix that would make you throw away every single patch you'd ever created and start over from scratch.

What in the absolute hell is wrong with you, man?

You only asking this now ?

 

[GTR37]

in an attempt to steer back on topic
what do you think the clip is this week ?

since we have had Fender Twin and Vox

my guess goes to JCM 800 2203, hopefully hitting it with a boost at the end

 

[EOengineer]

in an attempt to steer back on topic
what do you think the clip is this week ?

since we have had Fender Twin and Vox

my guess goes to JCM 800 2203, hopefully hitting it with a boost at the end

I think you could be right BUT we just got the jumped Plexi recently. I’m hoping something like a brown deluxe, or tearing off the bandaid and showing off some high gain stuff. I think we see the high gain stuff last, frankly.

 

[Gary_W]

And that's bad?

I’ve pre ordered the XL. I don’t own a Helix - I’ve got a Kemper.

Because I haven’t used Line 6 gear since the days of Pod XT I thought I’d give it a go via the free trial of Native on my PC. It’s a shame I’ve only got 11 days left of the trial because it’s exceeded my expectations and I’m even more excited for the stadium now. The layout weirded me out at first due to me being used to rig manager but I’m getting used to it and finding it easy to build things I am enjoying. There’s a few things already that won’t have Agoura versions in 1.0 that I wouldn’t want to lose…. There’s some really nice sounds in this thing. Preaching to the choir mostly here I suppose but having the existing models in there makes sense.

Will the older models benefit from focus view I wonder? I guess in future, ‘yes’ as it’s been said that we’ll be able to make our own focus zones. But having the 60 or so existing amps for the focus parameters with L6 experts setting them up would be a great way to add further value to the old amps as I think focus will be incredibly useful. Also…. will the hype knob work on these older amps or is that Agoura only?

 

[mikah912]

in an attempt to steer back on topic
what do you think the clip is this week ?

since we have had Fender Twin and Vox

my guess goes to JCM 800 2203, hopefully hitting it with a boost at the end

I could see this with foot switching between the low and high inputs, then switching on an SD-1 and Dynamic Plate reverb and hitting some chords.

 

[mikah912]

I’ve pre ordered the XL. I don’t own a Helix - I’ve got a Kemper.

Because I haven’t used Line 6 gear since the days of Pod XT I thought I’d give it a go via the free trial of Native on my PC. It’s a shame I’ve only got 11 days left of the trial because it’s exceeded my expectations and I’m even more excited for the stadium now. The layout weirded me out at first due to me being used to rig manager but I’m getting used to it and finding it easy to build things I am enjoying. There’s a few things already that won’t have Agoura versions in 1.0 that I wouldn’t want to lose…. There’s some really nice sounds in this thing. Preaching to the choir mostly here I suppose but having the existing models in there makes sense.

Will the older models benefit from focus view I wonder? I guess in future, ‘yes’ as it’s been said that we’ll be able to make our own focus zones. But having the 60 or so existing amps for the focus parameters with L6 experts setting them up would be a great way to add further value to the old amps as I think focus will be incredibly useful. Also…. will the hype knob work on these older amps or is that Agoura only?

Hype knob is Agoura only, I believe, but all of the amps have Focus view zones from what I understand.

 

[AlbertA]

in an attempt to steer back on topic
what do you think the clip is this week ?

since we have had Fender Twin and Vox

my guess goes to JCM 800 2203, hopefully hitting it with a boost at the end

Panama

 

[timbuck3]

They will introduce more agora sims :) The hardware is capable of running them. It'll take some time for new firmwares, sure, but it's the way things tend to work now. Software develops and you get updates. But yes, I would have also wished for more agora amps at launch.

I know this as they have stated it. And from past updates they will have around 10 yrs to do it so I am sure no rush from them and that’s why they have all the old helix stuff in there. To pad the expansion

 

[timbuck3]

And that's bad?

If you never gelled with the helix stuff in the past? Maybe

 

[timbuck3]

I truly, truly, truly don't understand why in the hell ANYONE would prefer a successor to the Helix that would make you throw away every single patch you'd ever created and start over from scratch.

What in the absolute hell is wrong with you, man?

Nothing. I actually see the helix Stadium as a way to get people who never liked or gelled with the helix tones to be re-introduced to the helix, but I think that may not be the case so it was my misunderstanding sorry.

 

[Dez]

Panama

I hope.

 

[paisleywookiee]

I hope.

Maybe the hype knob will make a 5150 sound good?! JK