Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

The best cleans I've ever gotten out of a digital device have been from a Kemper

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I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.

Oh for sure, I totally do too.

The experience of playing through any gear can be so subjective.
It's an easy opportunity for humour, but, it doesn't mean that what Eagle said is not true for him.
 
 
I get where @Eagle 's coming from. Agoura improvements are largely about the responsiveness and playing experience, things that can't be conveyed properly in recordings/clips, especially via YouTube's compression algorithm.
Hands-on will be the best way to test it. I am looking forward to this as I returned the first helix 45 days after I got it 10 years ago or so before it had any major updates so I figure it’s been 10+ years plus agora is implemented into this somehow so if I get it, I should love it within 45 days and I’ll keep it otherwise if I have the same reaction it’s going back

The deal I got was about $1800 after the coupon and taxes at guitar Center matched musicians friends so for that price I hope it’s a keeper the XL version
 
What reason is there to think it's a transition product though? Seems packed with features. And how would someone who buys the helix stadium perceive being offered a "legit agora modeler" only a year after? Would the stadium not get more agora sims or?
It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
 
It doesn’t seem a totally new product overall… sure gui is new and slick but I guess I was expecting all new amps and effects from the “new” agoura engine.
And yes, I know that there’s going to be a few amps in there with this new engine and likely no effects, but it’s not gonna have all the old helix stuff in there and as I said a couple times it reminds me thousand having all the old apps but introducing a few examps which the xamps are way more dynamic than the regular amps and when I had the GT 1000 I was kind of bumped because I thought there would be more x amps
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It’s not the sound so much as the playing experience for me . In a recording axe sounds pretty much exactly like the amp would in the same recording.
Well, that makes me feel better and I understand more. I’m a gain guy so if the cleans sound good and have some give and a nice harmonics top, I’m good. It’s every little detail that kills me on the gain tones though.
 
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