Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

[marshall2553]

my SW guy matched the 15% off. before you cancel, try that and keep your place in line.

edit: you could place a CYA order at MF in case they remove Stadium from the eligibility list again. lock in the 15% off at MF with an order today, if SW doesn’t match, cancel. i dunno, I’m not a lawyer or fiduciary

Good call. I just shot my SW rep an email seeing if he can price match. I'd rather not lose my place in line if I can avoid it.

 

[Dez]

Very true, and good point. For those keeping score on the MF vs SW battle, if financing matters to you, the coupon forfeits your ability to finance the purchase at MF. SW allows financing on top of 15% off.

That SW financing is why I have some of the gear I do. I don't have it in me to save 3700 for a MM Majesty, but I could definitely do 4 years of 0% interest payments (and now I have a paid off Majesty) Clearly financing isn't for everyone but I like it, and it helped my credit.

 

[eggpl@nt]

That SW financing is why I have some of the gear I do. I don't have it in me to save 3700 for a MM Majesty, but I could definitely do 4 years of 0% interest payments (and now I have a paid off Majesty) Clearly financing isn't for everyone but I like it, and it helped my credit.

I have a JP15 because of that financing

 

[Dez]

I have a JP15 because of that financing

I’m currently paying off my Mark V 35 because of that financing too lmao - I’m already thinking “what will I get when I pay this one off?”

Answer: most likely a Stadium next year

 

[Mongillo19]

That SW financing is why I have some of the gear I do. I don't have it in me to save 3700 for a MM Majesty, but I could definitely do 4 years of 0% interest payments (and now I have a paid off Majesty) Clearly financing isn't for everyone but I like it, and it helped my credit.

Yeah as with anything, it has its pros and cons. I finally worked down to $0 gear debt the last few months. It was all 0% interest but still, I don't love having a couple grand on a card (that's just me though).

If you are responsible with it, SW financing is awesome, but with any financing, it can be a dangerous rabbit hole

 

[jellodog]

Jason's one of my favorite people, even if he wasn't a Helix user. Everyone be nice please.

 

[Dez]

Yeah as with anything, it has its pros and cons. I finally worked down to $0 gear debt the last few months. It was all 0% interest but still, I don't love having a couple grand on a card (that's just me though).

If you are responsible with it, SW financing is awesome, but with any financing, it can be a dangerous rabbit hole

i would never, ever consider it if it wasn’t 0% and I KNEW it’s in my “
discretionary spending” threshold

 

[Dez]

I saw that and shut my mouth in respect lmao I can’t watch a video of his without wanting to rip my ears off

 

[timbuck3]

Oh man that sounded so good. Great playing with some good dynamics. I can’t wait.


Yeah I want to hear this as well. As you said - it’s likely coming at some point.

Kind of thin sounding but it’s online so maybe that’s why? Clips won’t really tell us much I think

 

[timbuck3]

Yeah, I'm not a fan of the off set images... they don't look that great to me.
I'd rather they looked square on and were functional, or not at all.

I'm sure others may feel different, but that's not my cuppa tea.

Like the TMP you mean?

 

[timbuck3]

It almost seems to me that Line 6 deliberately “nerfed” their Focus view/mode, just because they didn’t want to be accused of copying Fender’s skeuomorphic design on their Tone Master Pro (TMP).

If so, then that is a shame, as the GUI on the TMP is bloody brilliant (plus the TMP sounds absolutely amazing).

Besides, it is not like other manufacturers haven’t “borrowed” liberally from prior Line 6 innovations.

Yes the tmp displays are great. I bet line6 was just trying to be diff with that design so as not to copy tmp. Which is a shame.

 

[Mongillo19]

Yes the tmp displays are great. I bet line6 was just trying to be diff with that design so as not to copy tmp. Which is a shame.

Still have the preorder, Tim?

 

[Sascha Franck]

And you may be happy to know our XY Controller screen does display X and Y axis values both in percentage (0-100) and MIDI (0-127), specifically because it's a linear XY controller. It can be assigned to any number of parameters across different blocks: Press-hold the parameter, tap X (or Y) axis, done.

Can you enter parameter range limits?

 

[timbuck3]

Works just fine on Stadium XL

What code? Memsave?

 

[Dom Mcsweeney]

Like the TMP you mean?

I've paid little attention to the TMP, but maybe?
It's probably just because I am familiar with plugin GUIs, and those aren't usually offset at an angle.

Simply put I would prefer it if the images of each amp or device wasn't offset at an angle. somehow that really irks me.

As for having moving controls, I don't really mind at all.

 

[Digital Igloo]

Yes the tmp displays are great. I bet line6 was just trying to be diff with that design so as not to copy tmp. Which is a shame.

No. A scaled-down version of Focus view existed back in 2012 with StageScape M20d. GUI-wise, the only difference is that we're showing an image of the amp or effect instead of a solid color background. Given what Focus view is (and isn't), tiny moving knobs would be dumb and distracting, not to mention a massive waste of resources.

Can you enter parameter range limits?

Yes, just set Min and Max values per parameter like with any other controller. Except now it's easier because you can just tap the parameter and move the Min and Max nodes. No need to dig into the Bypass/Control menu at all.

 

[eggpl@nt]

What code? Memsave?

No it’s one of the unique, personal-specific codes that MF sends via email.

 

[GuitarGorilla]

Dude, allow me to gush a bit. Helix Stadium Backpack might be the most well-designed and well-thought-out thing Line 6 has ever made. Other than a couple of suggestions, I had nothing to do with it; that was all Dale and he knocked it out of the park.

Even if I didn't have Helix Stadium, I'd want one. It's pricey, but worth it IMO. We just need to try it out with other companies' products—Helix Floor, Helix LT, and the big Headrush might not fit, but any others should.

I preordered the Sweetwater bundle with the backpack. I used to not buy this sort of thing since there are plenty of other viable options, but I've learned that it does matter to me. Anything that reduces the hassle, disorganization, and discomfort of transporting my gear and setting it up and then packing it back up enhances my experience. Sometimes more than eking out an infinitesimally better tone.

 

[EOengineer]

I appreciated seeing that bright switch parameter on the twin.

 

[Sascha Franck]

Yes, just set Min and Max values per parameter like with any other controller. Except now it's easier because you can just tap the parameter and move the Min and Max nodes. No need to dig into the Bypass/Control menu at all.

Great. That'll open up for some wicked things.