Line 6 Helix Stadium Pre-Launch Discussion

Eric said they depreciated Hybrid cabs in the Helix Stadium.
Lysander said:
Yes. Stadium will have backwards compatibility with OG Helix patches, meaning all Helix blocks will be available on launch - minus the old hybrid cabs.
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What is replacing the hybrid cabs? Just straight IRs?
 
Interesting side effect of the Helix Stadium Announcment.

Don't know if its happening elsewhere, but here in Oz you can now buy a mint 2nd hand Full Helix Floor for ~$1500 - sometime way less ... mint LT for ~950 or less .... unheard of 2nd hand prices until just very recently.

OG FM3 are selling for ~$1200 <-> ~$1300 and they sit for quite while now.

Axe 3's are advertised but just don't really move much anymore - seem to take ages to sell - I think L6's decision not to do a Rack is brilliant.

Very interestingly, the HX Stomp has *not* dropped in price or demand in the used market .... once a classic always a classic as they say.

Me ... I have no doubt that the new Stadium and New Modeling is [almost certainly] going to be brilliant .... but .... I only use 1 or 2 Amps and a handful of efx .... so will be sticking with my HX Stomp with a Simplifier X in the Loop for Amps ..... it is soooo f&cking good !

Bu when the new Augora based "Stadium Stompium" finally drops, I'll be all over it like a hungry fat man at a breakfast buffet :)
 
BenIfin said:
Interesting side effect of the Helix Stadium Announcment.

Don't know if its happening elsewhere, but here in Oz you can now buy a mint 2nd hand Full Helix Floor for ~$1500 - sometime way less ... mint LT for ~950 or less .... unheard of 2nd hand prices until just very recently.

OG FM3 are selling for ~$1200 <-> ~$1300 and they sit for quite while now.

Axe 3's are advertised but just don't really move much anymore - seem to take ages to sell - I think L6's decision not to do a Rack is brilliant.

Very interestingly, the HX Stomp has *not* dropped in price or demand in the used market .... once a classic always a classic as they say.

Me ... I have no doubt that the new Stadium and New Modeling is [almost certainly] going to be brilliant .... but .... I only use 1 or 2 Amps and a handful of efx .... so will be sticking with my HX Stomp with a Simplifier X in the Loop for Amps ..... it is soooo f&cking good !

Bu when the new Augora based "Stadium Stompium" finally drops, I'll be all over it like a hungry fat man at a breakfast buffet :)
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Just got a Helix Rack for $800 😎
 
BenIfin said:
Interesting side effect of the Helix Stadium Announcment.

Don't know if its happening elsewhere, but here in Oz you can now buy a mint 2nd hand Full Helix Floor for ~$1500 - sometime way less ... mint LT for ~950 or less .... unheard of 2nd hand prices until just very recently.

OG FM3 are selling for ~$1200 <-> ~$1300 and they sit for quite while now.

Axe 3's are advertised but just don't really move much anymore - seem to take ages to sell - I think L6's decision not to do a Rack is brilliant.

Very interestingly, the HX Stomp has *not* dropped in price or demand in the used market
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I’ve noticed a lot of helix and kempers in the last few weeks. Still don’t really see axefx3s, a few fm3s. Definitely a combo of new stuff being announced making people assess their current gear. Some could just be selling cause they never used it, others could be anticipating new releases. Pretty cool either way for the second hand market.
 
Sascha Franck said:
I don't disagree at all, but people may have tons of presets using them and would have to reassign the cabs in all those patches.
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Well, they've had plenty of time to update those presets to something that sounds objectively better. There's no point in keeping the weakest tech in the new software, especially when it would make the new Agoura amps sound bad.

That said, it would be nice if the convert process automatically changed those cabs to one of the new (if it's not yet been ported, to the closest one).
 
BenIfin said:
Axe 3's are advertised but just don't really move much anymore - seem to take ages to sell - I think L6's decision not to do a Rack is brilliant.
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I think that L6 has catered to the "I play around in my basement" crowd for most of its history. The only market for a rack version is live performance. Since this is my primary use, the lack of a rack + foot controller model would likely prevent me from changing my rig no matter how many other bells and whistles the Stadium had.

Still, the percentage of people that ACTUALLY gig their equipment is likely small, so this might make sense.
 
Sascha Franck said:
I don't disagree at all, but people may have tons of presets using them and would have to reassign the cabs in all those patches.
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L6 could do an auto reassignment to a newer cab to make it easier, but how many people are using the old ones? I think a lot of old patches would be 3rd party IR’s or changes to the newer cabs.
 
OneEng said:
I think that L6 has catered to the "I play around in my basement" crowd for most of its history.
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I don't see how the proportion of types of users differs much between major digital units tbh.

Line 6 is a well known, easily purchasable, easy to use unit. I would venture to guess it's used live just as much if not more than any other modeler.
 
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